Frum: "Nothing O'Neill said wasn't true"

[monobrau]

Just heard on CNN. He was trying to defend *, but Paula Zahn pointed out that even Frum had described * as "ill-informed".
Even though he was attacking O'Neill, he stated twice that O'Neill wasn't lying.
I've been listening close to the spin-miesters; still haven't heard one claim that O'Neill is lying.
These bastards are on the run.

[Gysgt213]

1. Hope they run their butts right out of the white house into a jail cell

[cthrumatrix]

2. nobody can wrap this mans honesty -- a good reason why bush is screwed

time for the american people to wake up -- and see their president (thanks to the media cover) has deliberately lied and mislead their sons and daughters into a deadly war ...for oil and corporate $$$

Truth is truth....may it shine

[the populist]

6. and for the Likud n/t

[PROGRESSIVE1]

3. The fact the Paula Zahn wasn't licking Frum's backside is a.....

sign that something is up here!

[hellhathnofury]

4. Wolfie isn't watching?

[NoPasaran]

5. If only they really were on the run

Reagan proved that deficits don't matter.
Booooosh is pretty close to proving lies don't matter.

[ant]

7. it was pretty pathetic

He said something like, "what O'Neill says is all true, but people might draw the wrong conclusions from it."

[glarius]

8. I missed the first of Paula's show but I saw Frum live on CTV this morning

with his pathetic little story. .He's a Canadian who lives in Washington and appears on our TV up here periodically to inform us how we should be treating the Bush regime....Sure enough, he was on CTV bright and early this morning saying...."Nobody in the White House listened to O'Neill." He said that O'Neill was a successful businessman who came to Washington and thought people would defer to him and found out nobody was interested in his ideas...so he's bitter...He said O'Neill said nothing but wacky things....Of course Frum forgot to mention that O'Neill worked for the Nixon and Ford White House too....The amazing thing is that he FLEW straight up to Toronto for this morning's show and then right back to Washington...(Unless he wasn't talking from Washington...as I said I missed the first part of Paula's show.)...He also said our New Prime Minister Paul Martin should be ready to "make up" with Bush...Uuugghh..

[Catfish]

9. I just got a TV and only get 2 stations

so, I'm not sure who Frum is. Is he the guy who "resigned" after his wife sent out the emails claiming that her husband came up with the axis of evil part of the SOTU and the WH didn't like that?

[RainDog]

10. Karen is telling the truth, too

http://truthout.org/docs_04/011204C.shtml

 I was present at a staff meeting when Deputy Undersecretary Bill Luti called General Zinni a traitor. At another time, I discussed with a political appointee the service being rendered by Colin Powell in the early winter and was told the best service he could offer would be to quit. I heard in another staff meeting a derogatory story about a little Tommy Fargo who was acting up. Little Tommy was, of course, Commander, Pacific Forces, Admiral Fargo. This was shared with the rest of us as a Bill Luti lesson in civilian control of the military. It was certainly not civil or controlled, but the message was crystal.

     When President Bush gave his State of the Union address, there was a small furor over the reference to the yellowcake in Niger that Saddam was supposedly seeking. After this speech, everyone was discussing this as either new intelligence saved up for just such a speech or, more cynically, just one more flamboyant fabrication that those watching the propaganda campaign had come to expect. I had not heard about yellowcake from Niger or seen it mentioned on the Office of Special Plans talking points. When I went over to my old shop, sub-Saharan Africa, to congratulate them for making it into the president’s speech, they said the information hadn’t come from them or through them. They were as surprised and embarrassed as everyone else that such a blatant falsehood would make it into a presidential speech.

     When General Zinni was removed as Bush’s Middle East envoy and Elliot Abrams joined the National Security Council (NSC) to lead the Mideast division, whoops and high-fives had erupted from the neocon cubicles. By midwinter, echoes of those celebrations seemed to mutate into a kind of anxious anticipation, shared by most of the Pentagon. The military was anxiously waiting under the bed for the other shoe to drop amidst concerns over troop availability, readiness for an ill-defined mission, and lack of day-after clarity. The neocons were anxiously struggling to get that damn shoe off, gleefully anticipating the martinis to be drunk and the fun to be had. The other shoe fell with a thump on Feb. 5 as Colin Powell delivered his United Nations presentation.