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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:30 PM
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If you said "last week" what Paul O'Neill said Sun-you're a conspiracy nut
Where are all the conspiracy naysayer's now?

Time after time peole have come forward that the Iraq war was about oil. DU'ers complained about the secrecy of the Cheney energy papers being held in secrecy pre-911 with Iraq's name on them.

And now we find out that bush basically said "find a way for Iraq to happen." We now have O'Neill's memo's , maps, letters.

As Greg Palast shared...when you share something 6 months before it comes out in the press --- you're a conspiracy nut!

Can you connect the other dots? If not for 911....Iraq doesn't happen...are you ready to call everyone a conspiracy nut?

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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:31 PM
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1. Just a coincidence
He just opened his mouth and the words were just coincidentally next to eachother. I wouldn't put any stock in it.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:34 PM
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2. Yup...
I wish I could be saying, "See! I told you so..." But what's the
point.
Family members with which I have been having some rather heated
debates about shrub, his lies, etc have not responded to my emails...
I guess they're waiting to see what their Fox masters have to say...
:eyes:

If I can't have faith in my own blood relatives...who can I trust...?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:37 PM
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3. Remember the 28 pages missing from the 911 Report (another conspiracy)
per Palast (did Baker play a role in this?)
-------------------------------------------
James Baker -
- former US Secretary of Treasuer,
- 911 council for Saudi Arabia against the victims,
- paid to represent Saudi's and Carlye Group,
- now helping with Iraq debt (of which Saudi is owed money).
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:48 PM
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5. you have alot to read..suffice to say...your pres. could have said day1
when campaigning..."we have this plan for iraq" -- he didn't..in fact the opposite (see 60 min piece)

when he took office -- he could have shared this plan -- he didn't

when he diverted attention from Afghanistan (supposedly who bombed us in 911 ) you know ..the war on terror...to start his plans on invading Iraq

his case for WMD's was a fraud (we knew this before O'Neill) and now we find out that everything was made up for oil in Iraq ...which we knew before as well.

There's many more particular lies about the whole lead up. The facts are now on paper

He lied, before, during and after Iraq and 1000's of people are dead as a result....and we are not a bit safer for this 'war'.

Do your reading...
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:49 PM
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6. You're assuming that the poster knows how to read...
:evilgrin:
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:55 PM
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7. a plane hitting the pentagon is a conspiracy...
WTC being blown up by controlled demolition is a conspiracy...

It's not a surprise to many that this is out, it's no conspiracy
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:23 PM
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10. Two or more people planning to do evil is a conspiracy
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 11:24 PM by Art_from_Ark
Thus the WTC was a conspiracy, whether or not there was a controlled demolition.

The question is, Who was behind the conspiracy? Some guy in a cave?
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drb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:55 PM
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8. My favorite Lily Tomlin quote, just for today:
"No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up!"
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:55 PM
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9. From an old thread - Connect the Dots, America!
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 10:56 PM by Stephanie
  • PNAC makes a plan to control the ME, and installs a puppet chief exec who will do their bidding.


  • Dick and his oil pals get together in spring 2001 to divvy up the Iraqi oil fields, way before 9/11, way before the "drumbeat for war."


  • PNAC creates it's own private intel agency (OSP) to conjure up imminent-threat evidence to justify the Iraq invasion.


  • The Bush* admin receives many, many warnings before 9/11, ignores them all, then does everything it can to prevent an investigation. When Congress does investigate, the WH censors the report.


  • And then the wife of the whistleblower who calls them out on their biggest, most outrageous lie, is outed by someone in the White House as an undercover CIA agent.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=133055
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:53 PM
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11. Very Good Point!! <eom>
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TomNickell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:07 AM
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12. No.
You get to be a 'Conspiracy Nut' by believing in Disappearing Airliners, and EarthQuake Machines and Remote Controlled Airplanes and CIA Suicide Squads and the Collusion of Most of the Government in 9/11. Etc.

Thinking Bush is a lying fraud is just common sense.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:16 AM
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14. No - according to David Brooks last week, if you talk about PNAC
you're a conspiracy theorist. You're also unhinged and anti-Semitic. This is their line. Dismiss all questions with ridicule and aspersions. And your list is part of their method.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:09 AM
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13. Watching the interview....
I had this fantasy that Stahl was going to reach under her chair and pull out a tinfoil hat! :tinfoilhat:
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:23 AM
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15. I asked earlier
when Ted Kennedy, who was savaged by the wingnut right for suggesting out loud that the whole Iraq war thing was invented independently of 9/11, gets vindicated.
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