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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:55 AM
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Minneapolis Star Tribune: Bush must be held accountable....
The begining of the end for Bush..

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/4315251.html

Editorial: The wrong war/Why Iraq was a mistake
Published January 13, 2004 ED0113

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Instead, the administration's case was based on two central pillars: Saddam possessed chemical and biological weapons in large quantities and was hot in pursuit of nuclear weapons; he also is closely tied in with Al-Qaida and other terrorist groups, to which he could at any time provide weapons of mass destruction for use against the United States or its friends.

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Saddam had no WMD, and he had no links to Al-Qaida. The invasion of Iraq was an invasion of choice, not necessity, and it diverted U.S. attention and resources away from the real war against terrorism.

The Cato Institute, a conservative Washington think tank best known for pushing the privatization of Social Security, says the war in Iraq was "the wrong war" because "the enemy at the gates was, and continues to be, Al-Qaida. Not only was Iraq not a direct military threat to the United States (even if it possessed WMD, which was a fair assumption), but there is no good evidence to support the claim that Saddam Hussein was in league with Al-Qaida and would have given the group WMD to be used against the United States."

From the U.S. Army War College comes a new study warning that the U.S. war on terrorism is unfocused and may have set the nation "on a course of open-ended and gratuitous conflict with states and non-state entities that pose no serious threat to the United States." The war in Iraq, the report says, was "an unnecessary preventative war" which "diverted attention and resources away from securing the American homeland against further assault by an undeterrable Al-Qaida."

The most detailed critique comes from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Carnegie's scholars think deeply and well about the reasonable application of power to preserve peace. The war in Iraq was not one of those reasonable applications, they conclude. Findings from the study include:

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But the most sacred duty civilians have to their armed forces is to ensure they are never called to sacrifice their lives unless this nation faces a real threat. Bush must be held accountable for Hampton's death. Iraq was the wrong war -- for conservatives, for liberals, for all Americans.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:56 AM
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1. Holy cow!
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:56 AM
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2. Sa-weet!
The star-trib is a great paper! In fact the St. Paul Pionner Press is pretty good too...
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Lauren2882 Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:01 AM
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5. Great paper?
I read the Strib almost every weekday, and I'm not a big fan. There's just not a lot to it. Great editorials though. Do you live in Minneapolis?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:04 AM
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6. I lived in St. Paul for three years
moved to Seattle recently, and believe me, compared to Seattle's papers the Twin Cities are truly blessed...
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Lauren2882 Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:07 AM
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7. heh, I'll have to take your word for it :)
Edited on Tue Jan-13-04 02:08 AM by Lauren2882
I moved here recently from New England, and must be spoiled from The Boston Globe
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 09:06 AM
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13. I'll take the StarTrib over many papers
Especially my current hometown rag, the conservative Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. What a horrible paper!

I miss ST's editorials and sports section.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:57 AM
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3. fuck yes
2004 is starting off quickly for BushCo.

choke on it, you fascist lying fucks...
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:00 AM
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4. Wow I'm going to thank them right now.
All of us should send them a letter.
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POed_Ex_Repub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:10 AM
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8. We need about 300 more journalists to write similar articles..
What happened to responsible reporting? This is HUGE.
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jonoboy Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:30 AM
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9. anyone else get the feeling the GOP 'establishment' is on the move ?
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 07:52 AM
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10. kick (nt)
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:12 AM
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11. Shit howdy!
This is juicy! Especially when the U.S. Army War College and the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace can't be accused of being "a disgruntled employee with a grudge."

This is shaping up to be a most excellent week!

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:21 AM
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12. kick
:kick:
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