cthrumatrix
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Tue Jan-13-04 09:15 AM
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Did Bush just "admit to a crime" with Iraq goal ? Can you steal Oil? |
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This total PR spin by Rove sinks the admin. deeper and deeper.
With the data that was released, there are maps of Iraq Oil Fields and "divvying up the spoils" to certain countries and companies.
Excuse me....but is that legal? Did he just admit to:
* lying to the public...deliberately to get oil
* Lie to the UN for purpose of the war ..as "last resort"
I'm sorry...this PR spin is "total 100% desperation" and DEMANDS a thorough Independent Investigation
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Tue Jan-13-04 09:39 AM
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1. "Legal" is a question of money and firepower |
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If you have enough of both, anything you want to do is "legal."
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candidate2004
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Tue Jan-13-04 09:48 AM
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2. Unfortunately...the Plan Shown was Actually Clintons Plan |
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Actually, the plan shown was Clinton's plan began in 1998 with his list of potential companies including French and German companies..
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cthrumatrix
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Tue Jan-13-04 09:51 AM
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3. planning a crime does not put you in jail..... commiting a crime DOES |
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Tue Jan-13-04 09:53 AM
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please provide citation and link(s) for your post. thanks!
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Tue Jan-13-04 09:59 AM
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He was wrong and a fool to try to deal with certain economic entities whose rapacious intent he thought he could manage or simply did not about. In fact I think there is proof for both. But what does Clinton to do with the actual commission of the crime when his intent was otherwise and never brought into action? In fact, some things to do with Enron(he did not know how desperate those overstretched crooks were)show this is a model of his behavior and of his deception and never coming close to the worst complicity.
This is utterly credible given his hubristic optimism even as he was warned directly by Gingrich, still risking all to chase a skirt.
"Gee, I didn't think..." Well, now we know how bad it can get. If Clinton or his successors had been presiding forever would we ever had the proof of the rot and the danger?
There has been a lot of finger pointing(a leading indicator of Bush crimes and trouble) and Clinton should speak out again if he can. More than the maps is the execution with malice before and afterthought to deny the Iraqi nation control over its own destiny and the PNAC larger divvying up of world and economic hegemony for which Iraq was but a first break-in.
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Tue Jan-13-04 10:45 AM
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8. Clinton had his own Iraq... It was called Kosovo |
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Edited on Tue Jan-13-04 10:49 AM by Devils Advocate NZ
Clinton was no angel.
On edit: Let me just clarify a bit - the stated (propaganda) excuse for attacking Serbia was NOT the real reason Serbia was attacked. Serbia was refusing to be part of the globalisation movement and refused to allow foreign corporations to take over Serbian resources. That has now changed.
There was no "genocide" in Kosovo. In fact the US killed more civillians in Iraq in three weeks, than the Serbs supposedly killed in Kosovo after two years of war against Al Qaeda backed Islamic fundamentalist terrorists.
The REAL reason for both of these wars was corporate theft.
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Tue Jan-13-04 11:17 AM
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The plan shown was a plan presented to President Clinton in 1998 by the PNAC and was tabled by President Clinton as unworkable.
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Tue Jan-13-04 02:27 PM
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12. Not Wrong...its the wrong issue... |
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I understand....I'm just stating that according to ABC, the map was an insert in the planning file on Iraq that began during the Clinton Admin. I am no friend of Bush but I consider this issue to be hyper-bole as there are planning files to invade or disrupt probably any possible adversary. Lets just get our guys through this insanity and get them home.
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Tue Jan-13-04 10:36 AM
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6. teh question remains..did he Violate the Constitution? |
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Tue Jan-13-04 10:45 AM
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7. Bush went to War for both OIL and to get RE SELECTED |
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Tue Jan-13-04 11:16 AM
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9. They can't let clinton go can they? |
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I've lost count of the number of posts blaming the chimp's actions on Clinton. I knew and everyone who had eyes knew that the smirking monkey's* first and biggest priority was finding a pretense to go to war against Iraq. Go away and grow up these fucking freepers need to get a life.
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Tue Jan-13-04 11:19 AM
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are addicted to their Clinton's penis fetish; they'll never let go.
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