I just got "The Price of Loyalty"!

[lovedems]

I haven't started to read it yet but here is an excerpt from the cover:

"In this book Suskind draws on unique access to present an astonishing account of a President so carefully managed in his public posture that he is unknown to most Americans. Now, he will be known.

This is a "Pulitzer Prize-winning reporters explosive account of the inner workings of the George W. Bush administration, the most secretive White House of modern times."

I think this is going to be good.

[Timefortruth]

1. But O'Neill has changed his opinion of * back to fearless leader.

Throw the book away, the news has changed.

[lovedems]

3. This is Suskind's book, not O'Neills.

And from the looks of it, it is not flattering to the chimp at all. I am not going to miss this opportunity.

[Guaranteed]

4. Yeah, that's what it sounded like this morning.

Of course, yesterday's interview with Suskin was different.

Guess I'll just have to get the book! :eyes:

On edit: I'm starting to wonder if Suskin is just manipulating people, here.

[colorado_ufo]

5. "Ve haf vays"

Perhaps he was told that it will be necessary for him to fly in a small plane soon --

[Guaranteed]

6. I'm thinking that maybe Suskin was "spicing it up" to begin with

and then O'Neill came around and said "What the hell are you doing?", went on Today Show to calm things down.

Or, maybe they're getting death threats from Rove. "I'll fuck him like he's never been fucked before!!"

I dunno. I DO know that even Suskin's tone on the book and how it portrays Bush changed this morning from yesterday morning.

On edit: Also, I noticed one funny thing this morning when they came back from commercial break to start the interview- Suskin and O'Neill looked pissed...both of them, like they were pissed at each other. And then, of course, they put on their happy faces when the interview started. Did anyone else notice that? Maybe they were having a falling out.

[lovedems]

7. They probably have to watch their language because for the time

being, they are under investigation. Obviously they are going to play their language down and let the book speak for itself. O'Neill himself said he used harsh language to describe the (p)Resident. He knew what he was doing then and I trust he knows what he is doing now.

BTW, the administration coming out and saying they didn't listen to his "loony" ideas speaks volumes. If they had listened, maybe we wouldn't be in record budget defecits.

[Guaranteed]

14. "He knew what he was doing then and I trust he knows what he is...

doing now."

Good point. I think the most likely explanation is that O'Neill's simply covering his ass because he's scared. I think he probably did give a little flak to Suskin, though, for pushing the book in the way that he did. Do you think O'Neill was expecting this kind of attention? On the one hand he must have known that "going against the President" isn't allowed these days....on the other hand, maybe he didn't think that he was going to become the central figure of the book.

[LeahMira]

19. Not sure...

... Also, I noticed one funny thing this morning when they came back from commercial break to start the interview- Suskin and O'Neill looked pissed...both of them, like they were pissed at each other. And then, of course, they put on their happy faces when the interview started. Did anyone else notice that?

No, at that hour of the morning I'm lucky if I can find my face in the bathroom mirror, but I admit that I was flabbergasted when O'Neill said that he probably would vote for Bush in 2004... that he saw no reason not to at this point.
Some folks are claiming that Clinton knew how dangerous Saddam was and wanted regime change, but it took Bush who the cojones to take charge and do something about it. I'm wondering if most Americans really do want the country to behave the way Bush is leading it. Hard to be optimistic sometimes.

[Richardo]

2. I'm getting mine tonight from my B&N - can't wait!

:9

[CatWoman]

8. What's the going price for this book?

[SeveneightyWhoa]

9. Look it up @ Amazon.com

You're on the internet, use it! Haha.

[CatWoman]

12. smart ass

:D

[Richardo]

10. $26.00 list ($18.20 with the 30% bestseller discount) at B&N

:-) Your friendly bookseller Uncle Richardo :hi:

Barnes & Noble Sales Rank: 1

[CatWoman]

13. lol

thanks, unk!!!

:hi:

[lovedems]

11. My husband paid 26.00 this morning at B&N.

Let's see if it is money well spent.

[underpants]

22. $27.17 at B&N I just got it at lunch

On the way I heard some idiot's show (Mike Gallagher?) and one caller complain about the COST to print 19,000 pages

WHO PAYS FOR THAT?

The host backed him up of course.

The don't seem to be familiar with the fact that they were on CD's. They also were not familiar with O'Neill saying that it was a cover sheet and that all of it had been cleared by the Treasury Gen. Counsel.

[lovedems]

15. Quote from the book about the 19,000 documents.

In March, O'Neill approached his former colleagues at the Treasury Department for what he insisted was his due: copies of every document that had crossed his desk. One day, as he was leaving Washington for Pittsburgh, he passed me a few unopened CD-ROM's. "This is what they gave me," he said. When I started to open the disks, I wondered if there was an error on my hard drive: nineteen thousand documents were listed. They are image files, meaning that every document sent to O'Neill was xeroxed. Those images-an essential rendering of his two years as secretary-capture the activities of the full breadth of the U.S. government. They stretch from memoranda to the President to hand-scribbled thank-you notes, from minutes of meetings to hundred page reports"


In short, all of the documents were given to O'Neill. He didn't take anything.

[Guaranteed]

16. Right...so O'Neill didn't even know what was on the disks.

I don't think he understood what he was doing, how this was going to be spun. He did something, in anger, probably, that was extremely damaging to the Bush administration, and now his anger has worn off, slightly, at least, and he's probably feeling a little guilty, and probably very scared.

[lovedems]

17. Yes, but through this book, the damage has been done.

Maybe he is a little scared but in politics, you can't really take back something that you have said. The American people won't let you do that.

[lovedems]

18. BTW, when the book was started and probably the whole time it was

written, the controversy surrounding the push to war wasn't in the spotlight. This book is being released at the same time the Carnegie report is released, the US Army College, the Cato Insitute. There might be a sense that this book is getting more momentum becasue it collaberates with all of these other negative stories about * and his administration. For some reason, I don't think O'Neill was expecting this type of coverage. For dems it is great timing, for repubs it is terrible timing. Like it or not, O'Neill is still a republican and might not like that he is being linked with some of these groups. In short, his motives could be anything.

[Bonhomme Richard]

20. I think O'Neill woke up with....

a horse head in the bed with him.

[JohnyCanuck]

21. and an invitation to go for a plane ride. n/t

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