Is Bush trying to piss off as many people on both sides as possible?

[RandomKoolzip]

His overspending during a deficit pisses off the fiscal conservatives.

His response? Restart the space program! New 1.8 billion to...promote MARRIAGE? Why? So that more divorce lawyers will get rich?

His well-known "faith" pleases the social conservatives.

His response? Amnesty! Immigration! We all know that far-right social conservatives LOVE porous borders.

Every move he makes seems calcualted to alienate as many people on all sides as possible; liberals are angry about IWR and the many conservative policies he's responsible for, the tax cuts for the rich, the destroyed economy and lost jobs, etc. and the conservatives are NOT pleased with his idiocy in the above areas. Some even call him "liberal!" He's a political hot potato...his only appeal left is on the "beer buddy" level.

What's going on here? Are the DU optimists right: is he toast? There's certainly very little logic used in making his decisions as I see it.

[MsFlorida]

1. while in texas

* did all the unpopular right before the election and when the election was coming close -- moved back to center. I just wish people had better long term memories and would remember.

on the other hand, I have to vent just a little I have never hated anyone like I do smirk. It would please me to no end to just see that smirk wiped off his face and for him to lose everything like he has done to so many people. The thought of him scrounging in a garbage can for something to eat -- now that is a visual

[sallyseven]

2. Hetrosexual marriage

Britney Spears. Fine example. 1.5 billion to promote marriage between a man and a woman no matter how unseemly.

[RandomKoolzip]

5. I know...what a waste of money we don't have!

How is promoting marriage going to pay off economically in the long run? Hasn't marriage been "promoted" in the media since time immemorial? Hasn't the pressure to marry been the CAUSE of rushing into quickie unions, to end as quickie divorces more often than not?

More marriages=more divorces.

And he's spending 1.5 BILLION on that?! Well, thank God it's not going into improving public schools.

[KoKo]

6. Since when is it a Pres's job to promote Marriage in the first place?

That's the question.

[RandomKoolzip]

10. That's a real "No Shit!" question.

The president has no business presiding over the social contracts between two people. Don'tcha think you should be cleaning up the mess you made all over the world and restoring our good name rather than "promoting marriage," Peorgy?

[Chico Man]

3. Maybe he wants to lose the election?

Perhaps he knows something we don't, like the economy is about to collapse?

Then they can blame it on the Dems and sweep in for a "pseudo-rescue" in 2008, or an earlier impeachment?

[KissMyAsscroft]

4. He is trying to move back to the center..

He did all of the really controversial stuff right after he was elected, now he is doing this other crap to move back to the center.

He has to be called on it often and loudly by the Dems. They have to stay on message and ridicule his proposals for being unrealistic.

Point out that we just gave 87 BILLION to Iraq and ask the public where Bush thinks he is going to get the money to pay for these intitiatives.

The new Marriage Porposal is a giveaway to church's that support his reelection, nothing else.

The Dems need to show that Bush is desperate for reelection and will stop at nothing to get reelected. Paint him as an out of control madman, which he is.

[KoKo]

8. Money to Promote "Marriage" is not "Center," though. It's RW Fundie

his base that he's appealing to with that one.

[rucky]

20. Why? Do you HATE marriage or something?

just kidding.

they've invented a new wedge issue.

We should counter with a 2 billion grant to promote ice cream. Everyone loves ice cream!

[Lefta Dissenter]

7. If his agenda scares us NOW,

just think of how out of control that man will be if he wins the election. There will be nothing to hold him back.

At least now, we can figure him out - he's spinning like a top, trying to buy votes as fast as he can (however misguided some of his attempts might be - I've already spouted off about the latest one on the 'marriage promotion' thread). But if he's in for another four years, with no re-election to be concerned with, I'm afraid that we haven't even begun to imagine the horrific agenda he will be pushing.

Please remember to support your Democratic Senators and Representatives!!! If we don't gain back at least one branch of government, we are screwed.

[doc03]

9. Good Pat Buchanan column on this

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36555

[KoKo]

12. And, check out these two paragraphs from article. Impeachment mentioned!

SNIP.....



Not long ago, this would have produced calls for impeachment and cries that, "If Bush won't enforce our laws, let's elect a president who will."But Rove may be too clever for the president's good. For there is no hard evidence that Hispanics, other than those militants who detest Republicans, are demanding amnesty. And with Bush's spending on foreign aid soaring, his deficits rising and the White House refusing to veto a single spending bill, Rove & Co. may have stretched conservative loyalty to the breaking point.

For some conservatives, this amnesty will snap it. They may just get on their hind legs and fight, for huge majorities have repeatedly registered opposition to any amnesty for illegal aliens. How is the president helped by a bloody battle with his political base in an election year?

[doc03]

17. Bush Top Gun Action Figure

I got the Bucanan story off of Drudge, afterwords I got a pop-up add for the Bush Top Gun Action Figure, uhmmmmm I wonder if voodoo really works.

[DuctapeFatwa]

11. Yes. It's cognitive dissonance as public policy

And it is very effective.

It got Congress to go sing God Bless America on the Capitol steps and pass legislation to effectively repeal the Constitution without reading it.

It got millions of people to watch two big buildings implode and say they didn't.

It got those same people to agree that "evildoers who hate freedom" is the Answer to almost anything.

It got them to believe that Saddam Hussein flew a plane into the World Trade Center.

It got them to wait in long lines at airports, nodding approvingly, removing their shoes - and putting their butane lighters back in their pockets to board the plane.

It got them to applaud crimes against humanity, and send their sons and daughters to commit them, and die defending KBR's right to additional revenues and a really spectacular 4th quarter.

It got them to agree that the rule of law is outdated and anti-American, that secret courts and secret trials and disappeared neighbors are in their best interests.

And you ain't seen nothin' yet.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

13. As to the moon thing

I think its part of this tactic to pretend that they're democrats. He wants people to conjure images of JFK in their minds when they think of him.

Personally it conjures images of frozen homeless oon the street and kids getting asbestos poisoning in their inner city classrooms. Among others

[RandomKoolzip]

15. The trip to the moon is an imbecilic policy.

We're already in hock up to our goddamned eyeballs...maybe that's the plan with what he does fiscally. It's a real "starve the beast" policy: drive up SO much debt that the only way to get the economy back on its feet is to cut ALL funding to valuable social programs, like Grover Norquist proposes, leaving us with a defense budget and little else. Okay, lots of homeless people, soup lines,etc....

I never thought Bush would have the balls to do it.

[camero]

14. They know their time is running out

And they are trying to grab all the goodies they can. Sooner or later their whole house of cards are going to crumble and they know it.

21. bingo!

both in the short term, the next year & the long term - with oil rapidly disappearing from the planet in the next 50

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

16. There's one great explanation

You see, as you might have already heard, God has pre-ordained a second term for Bush. So he can do whatever the hell he wants, piss off whoever he wants, kill whoever he wants, and it doesn't matter. God's got his back. :puke:

[Cannikin]

18. The politics of division.....

We're more easily controlled while we arent unified behind a cause....

I think we should pull together as a party and let GWB splinter his own party.

[spooky3]

19. Yes, it's the one thing he's capable of.

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. This is similar to how Bu$hler behaved before 9-11

It seemed that he was doing everything he could to piss of the world. Tearing up the ABM treaty, not signing onto the Kyoto treaty, not going to the Civil Rights conference in Africa, ignoring al Qaeda while threatening the Taliban...

Now he's doing the same thing but this time it's to his fellow Americans. He must have another one of those devious plans up his sleeve. The next 11 months are going to be a very dangerous time for the rest of us, especially if it looks like Bu$h is going to lose the election. I can't even begin to imagine what he is capable of pulling so that he can keep his grasp on power.

[bigwillq]

23. You guys are so right

Bush is just wasting our money. Space, marriage, war.
I'm interested in the space mission but I don't feel now is the time to be pursuing that. Not with all the other issues on the table. Plus, we don't have the money to spend on space. The marriage issue is just wasted money, especially with a 500 billion $ deficit.

[Cannikin]

24. Read the PNAC info if you want to see what the long term goal is...

America controls the world through force.

[Plaid Adder]

25. Did my column this morning about this very issue

http://www.democraticunderground.com/plaidder/04/09.html

My theory is that he's oversold his presidency and htis is the inevitable result. Moohoohahaha.

Schadenfreude feels so good, doo-da, doo-da,

The Plaid Adder

[watercolors]

26. He's covering all bases

to win votes from every area possible, like he's all things to all people, NOT! I think most of us ealize that, I hear it every day what a nutcase he is! Yes, the sheeple are waking up!

[info being]

27. Maybe they are going to impeach him and run someone else?