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Wed Jan-14-04 05:59 PM
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If you were Bill Clinton, what would you do this year? |
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Another thread about disappointment in Bill Clinton got me thinking. What could the last popularly elected president be doing to help us Right Now?
I may have disagreed with much of his policy while in office, and I don't think there's too much question that he weakened the Democratic party somewhat. But he's still an incredibly sharp, well-spoken, and charismatic person. He's got assets; the question is, how should he use them?
If you were Bill Clinton in 2004, what would you do?
Me, I'd start by campaigning for Democratic party planks in stronghold states, to shore up the base during the primaries. We've seen some fairly ominous activity in New York and (holy shit!) California recently, so it wouldn't hurt to have the Big Dog playing defense there. An endorsement of a candidate is unnecessary at this time, I'd wait until after the nomination, but offer active support if the candidate wished it.
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:07 PM
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:08 PM
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i'd become a spokesman for the democratic party, maybe get a limbaugh type radio program
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:09 PM
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...I want him to stay away from any type of campaigning.
I've never been a fan of the Clintons. I think that that problem with the Democratic party is that it is to conservative, and Clinton is the one who got us there. I won't get into a "Clinton" rant here, but I've never been happy with the guy.
Another thing to think about: he is the favorite whipping boy of the neocon's, and I guarantee you that if he spoke up for any candidate, the focus would be on him, not on the candidate.
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:10 PM
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5. He should go to the same area as * for the |
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MLK memorial service. Then we'll see who is respected more.
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:14 PM
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What I am trying to get across here is that if Clinton got up and did campaigning for someone, then the focus would be on him and not the candidate.
Yeah, I don't like the guy. I don't like Dubya either. Of the two, I prefer Clinton.
What is the point of your post?
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:18 PM
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13. What about issue advocacy? |
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I agree with you about the candidate campaigning, by the way.
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:22 PM
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16. Again, my answer would be for him to stay out of it. |
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*Anything* Clinton gets involved in, especially because this is an election year, he will be the main story. We need to make sure the focus is on the people that are running and not on him.
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:25 PM
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18. I don't know why people aren't hearing you... you're right! |
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You're exactly right.
I guess there is so much fogginess around the issue of what Clinton wreaked upon the party that there is just not way to understand the simple concept that he isn't that helpful.
I hear you. I agree with you.
Kanary
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:30 PM
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20. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:10 PM
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4. Ex-presidents aren't supposed to do anything |
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You never hear from Poppy, and his son is up for reelection.
Executive privlidge.
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:13 PM
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9. Maybe Poppy is not happy with him? |
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:17 PM
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12. Poppy doesn't give a shit, that's why you won't hear from him |
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It's apparent that he finds his eldest son to be a drug-addled buffoon, propped up by the massive corporate power structure his forebears created. Ever seen footage of the bushes together playing golf? It's hilarious!
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:11 PM
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:12 PM
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7. Dang, you stole my knee-jerk answer! |
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If I were Bill Clinton I'd take some top-notch lessons and sharpen up my game.
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:14 PM
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Great minds think alike.
Yeah, I'd hit the links.
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:20 PM
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14. Bill Clinton was not "popularly elected" - 43% popular vote '92, 49% '96 |
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Wed Jan-14-04 09:33 PM
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25. '96 he won legit. '92 is a different matter. |
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Wed Jan-14-04 09:34 PM
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26. A plurality suffices in our system, or have you forgotten? |
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Clinton's 43% beat the other two candidates soundly.
Unlike the current resident who lost the vote, yet won the election through sheer corruption.
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Wed Jan-14-04 09:35 PM
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27. Yeah but at least he got the most votes |
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unlike the idiot that you worship
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:20 PM
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15. I get an exorcism STAT. |
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:22 PM
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17. Repent. Only partially facitious |
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It would help if he would start by acknowledging some of the junk he did, and the messes he created, and have the humility to listen to how people now want to *fix* what he did. If he were able to do that, I would be able to listen to him again. He needs to hear from the workers how he messed them up with support for NAFTA: He needs to listen -- and I mean really *HEAR* -- the pain he has caused those he screwed out of welfare.
*THEN* he could go on to heal some of the rifts, and bring some strength back to the party.
Campaigning isn't going to heal those rifts.
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:38 PM
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I think I'm falling in love with you. Don't be alarmed. ;-)
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:46 PM
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you mean act like he cares, act like he understands, act like he listens, because we all know he doesn't. just another politician
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:27 PM
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Because if it doesn't work out everybody will blame him for everything that went wrong.
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Wed Jan-14-04 06:34 PM
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21. I'm not Bill Clinton. More importantly, |
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anyone selected in 2000 that wasn't Bush would not have let 9/11 happen or at least would have taken greater consideration and genuine care toward the American people afterward.
If Bill Clinton had let 9/11 happen, he'd be toast for sure.
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Wed Jan-14-04 09:31 PM
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24. It's a hypothetical question, my sweet mad toad. |
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Restating: "what do you, hypothetically role-playing EX-president Bill Clinton, do to help the Democrats in 2004?"
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Wed Jan-14-04 10:07 PM
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28. Don't you mean who he would do? |
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Wed Jan-14-04 10:17 PM
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29. Finish book. Release AFTER election |
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I can't wait til it comes out, but I hope he makes sure it doesn't interfere with the election.
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Wed Jan-14-04 10:17 PM
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30. 1) Help raise money once the primaries are over. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 10:18 PM by spooky3
Many on DU may not like him, but he remains extremely popular with many, maybe even the majority, of Americans, especially those in the center. Many would be happy to pay $$$ to hear him as a dinner speaker (and many already have).
2) Advise any candidate who seeks his advice if he wants to. He has valuable experience. The candidate can decide for him/herself how to use the advice.
3) Campaign with the nominee if asked and if he wants to. Nearly all of the people this will alienate, and I think this number is small, were going to vote for Bush anyway.
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