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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:43 PM
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Day 2 Of O'Neil Book Available --- what are the Dems Doing?
We saw Jesse Jackson speak out this morning in the Chicago Sun Times and Ted Kennedy gave shrub a ripping this morning on C-SPAN (I guess the speech is on his website...other thread on DU about both of these).

But what about the non-candidates? What about Daschle and company, Pelosi, etc... guilt by their silence?

Is this what we have for a party? A respected whistlblower in the WH has given them shrub's "head on a platter"-- as far as Iraq war planning and obvious deception.

I'm guess that they are planning some grand strategy. I guess they are leaving it up to the media or are they too afraid to be "reached" like Paul O'Neill (thank God the horses have left the barn).

It looks like they are leaving to US to figure this out at the polls. It's up to US to read the book and share with friends. It's up to US to educate fellow voters and convince to vote other in November.

And maybe it will be up to US to vote these same "church mice" out of office when the time comes?

Somebody share with me their thought process.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:50 PM
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1. Daschle, Gephart, Lieberman and Kerry all love this war
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 07:50 PM by sasquatch
As long as white people aren't getting invaded and slaughtered unjustly they're all for it:eyes: We have no leaders that present and defend liberal ideals, that's why we need Kucinich, Dean or Clark to win. That way we'll have a party that isn't afraid to fight back and stand for the people.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:55 PM
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2. There are Democrats and there is the DNC. The two are not related.
The DNC is off serving its own purpose, whatever that may be. It is why we really need the primaries to be over and a candidate chosen. The candidate's first task should be to take back the DNC for Democratic party members.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:01 PM
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4. Isn't there a term called "strike when the iron is hot"?
I thought the party's purpose was to build a majority to throw shrub out of office and take back this country....that's step one.

Here is a prime issue...at least anyone on DU that's familiar with what O'Neill shares is very damning to bush.

I cannot believe how SILENT this party is....almost as shocking as the book.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:59 PM
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3. Maybe they are reading the book before they make a call to action
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 08:00 PM by lovedems
wishful thinking maybe but I keep waiting for the moment the dems stand up and fight the good fight against this administration. They need to hit the media and who gives a damn what kind of bullshit questions they are asked by the likes of Wolf Blitzer and Paula Z. :puke: They need to remind the people that our soldiers are dying because * wanted a war, couldn't get one the democratic way, so he lied!!!!!!

Hello? Dems I hope you can hear the distant wails of those who you are suppose to represent. You know, the ones who gave you your jobs.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:05 PM
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5. I'm concerned they are bought -- on imporant issues they sell out
I should say many of them surprise the heck out of me. I'm still frosted at the medicare reform bill.

I hope I'm wrong ....and IF I'm not...then what? We hope that the computers aren't "fixed" during the election?

(passionate typing over)
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:26 PM
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8. The DNC is the major reason the house and senate has been lost
to the repubs. They are not supporting Democratic candidates. They have been this way for the last decade. The Democratic party needs leadership and hopefully with this election we will get one.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:17 PM
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6. D.C. party circuit
Good work if you can get it.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:20 PM
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7. Gee, whatever happened to investigating the facts
before coming to conclusions.

The Dems in Congress have been lambasting Bush* over it. Sen Kennedy in particular.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:29 PM
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9. Statement By Wes Clark On Paul O'Neill's 60 Minutes Interview
Statement By Wes Clark On Paul O'Neill's 60 Minutes Interview
http://clark04.com/press/release/168/

"Today, Paul O'Neill confirmed what I have been saying all along: the Bush Administration's focus on Iraq was not tied to the war on terror. It was a long-standing plan that was discussed from the opening days of the Bush White House.

In White House meetings during the months of January and February 2001, President Bush and his advisors were planning for what they presented to the public in January and February of 2003: peacekeeping troops, war crimes tribunals and nation building memos for a post-Saddam Iraq. Bush and his advisors even went so far as to plan for the divvying up of Iraq's oil wealth.

According to Secretary O'Neill, President Bush was focused on finding a way to overthrow Saddam, and he demanded that those around him find a way to do it. In the end, they used the war on terror as an excuse to execute their long-standing plans.

This is wrong. This is not leadership. The American people deserve to know the truth, especially something involving young service men and women. But given the track record of the Bush Administration, the last thing the American people can count on is the truth...."

60 Minutes. That's national TV. If Clark danced naked in Times Sq while attacking Bush* would some people here continue to complain that Dems aren't complaining about Bush*?
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:30 PM
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10. Statement on Paul O'Neill Investigation -- Dean
Statement on Paul O'Neill Investigation
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/003121.html

"BURLINGTON--In response to news that the White House has opened an investigation into Paul O’Neill, Governor Dean said:

"It only took one day for the Bush White House to retaliate against Paul O'Neill with a politically-motivated investigation--and all he did was tell the truth about George Bush’s rush to war in Iraq.

"Meanwhile, 184 days since Robert Novak blew the cover of a CIA operative based on a leak by a White House aide, the White House has yet to identify the guilty party.

"Why doesn’t the President call his staff into the Oval Office one-by-one, and ask them if they disclosed Valerie Plame's identity?

"Paul O’Neill is not a threat to our national security.

"But the disclosure of the identity of an undercover CIA operative undermines a key tenet of national security and is a violation of law..."

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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:37 PM
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12. Kucinich on O'Neill Revelations
Kucinich on O'Neill Revelations
http://www.kucinich.us/statements.htm#ONeill

Dennis' campaign for the presidency developed out of the response to a speech he gave in February 2002 opposing the Bush Administration's build-up to a war on Iraq.

Dennis today released this statement in response to former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill's charges that President Bush entered office in January 2001 intent on invading Iraq and was in search of a way to go about it:

"These revelations are not just about the past. The Bush Administration is still with us. They manufactured justifications for the war, and they are now manufacturing justifications for continuing this occupation. The war is not over, and the invention of justifications for it is not over. Even Democratic presidential candidates are joining in. But the idea that we can stabilize Iraq and develop a legitimate democracy prior to turning control over to the United Nations is as impossible to believe as were the claims about an imminent threat from vast stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction."
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:40 PM
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14. thank you ...yes I know these...now how many were on TV?
How many were on radio?

How many were fron page of your newsapaper?

people do not see/read these



We need a dem campaign of truth and outing the president for a deceptive war. We need democratic lawyers to come out and see if this was unconsitutional. We need people in America to "understand" what the book contains.

The media is in "gag order" mode.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 10:50 PM
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16. Kerry on O'Neill Revelatations
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0110.html

January  10,  2004

For Immediate Release
Des Moines, Iowa -
 

“These are very serious charges by a former high ranking Administration official. We already knew the Administration failed to focus on the threat from Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda. We already knew the Administration broke every promise they made to work through the U.N., use the resolution to enforce inspections, build a coalition, and plan for peace. But Secretary O’Neill’s revelations would mean the Administration never intended to even try to keep those promises. It would mean they were dead-set on going to war alone since almost the day they took office and deliberately lied to the American people, Congress, and the world. It would mean that for purely ideological reasons they planned on putting American troops in a shooting gallery occupying an Arab country almost alone. The White House needs to answer these charges truthfully because they threaten to shatter their already damaged credibility as never before.”
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:32 PM
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11. we acknowledge Kennedy,Jackson and dem candidates -- The media
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 08:33 PM by cthrumatrix
calls O'Neills bombshell "sourgrapes" to the public...if you asked most people in America they woudld say it's "sourgrapes" beause they only have time to hear what the "popular media and right wing radio shares"

it's important to get air time...sieze the moment and stick-up for the whistleblower in the WH.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:40 PM
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13. Sad, but true. Even sadder
is if you were to ask people on DU if the Dems were attacking Bush* on this, they would say "No" because 'they only have time to hear what the "popular media and right wing radio shares" '
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:41 PM
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15. Pelosi and Stenni (sp) had a..........
long press conference this afternoon. Sometime after Ted. I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention......sorry. I do know they were talking strategy,bush,election but that's about it. C-Span probably has the video.
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