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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:26 PM
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maureen dowd is nuts!! see today's column!!
what is her obsession with dean's wife??? my wife would be doing the same. is something wrong with that??

sheesh....these rw pundits are insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane!!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:28 PM
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1. Do you have a link?
I haven't seen her column today.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:32 PM
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2. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/15/opinion/15DOWD.html
i couldn't even read the whole thing...it ain t funny...dowd is off her meds again i think??!!
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:48 PM
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10. And the column before she was obsessing on Clark
in sweaters and said he is trying to appeal to female voters. Suggested he'd be better putting on his uniform and swaggering around like AWOL in a flight suit.

She's probably going to Gore whoever is the Dem candidate this year. I thought from some columns she wrote about * and the cabal she may have regretted her unmerciful attacks on Gore - but Nah.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:32 PM
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3. It's become the new attack weapon of the right
Honestly, they're so transparent. This has now been discussed in the last 3 days in the NYT, Imus and Mike Barnicle weighing in yesterday on the radio. Couldn't they at least space these pronouncements so that it wouldn't look so coordinated? They might be morons, we're not and can see it.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:49 PM
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13. No they want the talking points to be repeated everywhere
People like us aren't the target of the talking points, it's for the Republican base and the swing voters.

If they hear the same opinions repeated everywhere that trivialize and emasculate the Democrats, they think that "everybody" thinks that and won't vote for them because they want to be on board with the "winners". They associate the "losers" with Democratic constituencies. I know people that listen to this obvious crap and believe it and repeat it. It's all emotion and rooting for their "team", These people never have any facts and don't care to have any.
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artistaboard Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:35 PM
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4. Maureen Dowd is right on
Here's the NYT story
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/15/opinion/15DOWD.html?hp
and I agree. While many Dems admire Mrs. Dean's independence, she'll not be accepted as traditional "First Lady" material to the general electorate. Reality. This is not her husband's hobby to be tolerated, this has to be seen as a team effort. It's a losing combination.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:53 PM
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14. Maureen Dowd is not "right on".
She is a dick. I think the American people will be able to accept Howard's wife, should she become first lady. Bill and Hillary were a team, remember? Do you recall how far that got them?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:01 PM
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17. heh
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:38 PM
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7. NYT is a trash rag for the elite
wiht the exception of Krugman (which they regret ever signing on)
and Herbert

Dowd is a media whore deluxe

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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:37 PM
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6. so Hillary was too involved, and Mrs. Dean is not involved enough
Basically the only acceptable role for a male politician's wife is to be a vapid trophy standing by her husband's side with a smile plastered to her face, looking up at him whenever he speaks and holding his hand when he walks.

Personally I vote for the candidate, not his or her spouse.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:48 PM
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12. Exactly!
I do not think that most voters will have any problem with Dr. Steinberg. The last time I checked this was the 21st century and it really is not that unusual for women to work outside the home. I suspect that the main people who have a problem with Dr. Steinberg are people who have very traditional views toward women and who will probably not vote any Democratic candidate.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:04 PM
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18. Maureen is off the mark...
Personally I vote for the candidate, not his or her spouse.

That's how it should be. Dr. Steinberg-Dean has a medical practice and no doubt hundreds of patients who depend on her being there for them. I understand she even makes house calls. How nice, and what a neat person she must be. Why on earth should she give up doing what she obviously loves to go running around the country with her husband, smiling vapidly and mixing it up with crowds of strangers... a role she apparently dislikes intensely... and especially when her husband is just running in the primaries so far. Maybe if he is the eventual candidate she will choose to participate more, or maybe she won't. Her choice. If I were in her shoes, I know I wouldn't. Some people who can't find anything of substance to say will try to find any excuse to criticize anyhow. Those people have empty lives themselves... unlike Dr. Steinberg-Dean
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:45 PM
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9. Dowd is seriously unhinged
She's all over the place and I can't take her seriously. So catty.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:48 PM
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11. I honestly think she might have trauma-induced MPD like Tweety.
Something is definitely amiss.
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:55 PM
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15. Folks, this is nothing new with Dowd
she was one of the so called "cool kids" during the last election - with her snide comments about Gore - the only thing admirable about the NYT (laffable paper of record) is Paul Krugman and Herbert - it's the only reason I even click on their website.

they are bush* cheerleaders all the way and were the standard bearer of the Clinton impeachment.

they are WHORES folks..
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:57 PM
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16. just like she's obsessed with things "clintonesque"
(she loves the term to demonize the Clintons)

she can hardly write anything without mentioning the Clintons; like today's piece:

"Even by the transcendentally wacky standard for political unions set by Bill and Hillary Clinton, the Deans have an unusual relationship."

transcendentally wacky? :wtf:

what about the 'transcendentally wacky' dick and lynne cheney union?
}(

jeans and tennis shoes = 'hippie' :hippie:
:eyes:
:crazy:


The Doctor Is Out
By MAUREEN DOWD

Published: January 15, 2004


~snip~

"In worn jeans and old sneakers, the shy and retiring Dr. Judith Steinberg Dean looked like a crunchy Vermont hippie, blithely uncoiffed, unadorned, unstyled and unconcerned about not being at her husband's side — the anti-Laura. You could easily imagine the din of Rush Limbaugh and Co. demonizing her as a counterculture fem-lib role model for the blue states.

While Elizabeth Edwards gazes up at John from the front row of his events here, while Jane Gephardt cheerfully endures her husband's "Dick and Jane" jokes, while Teresa Heinz Kerry jets around for "conversations" with caucusgoers — yesterday she was at the Moo Moo Cafe in Keokuk at the southernmost tip of the state — Judith Steinberg has shunned the role of helpmeet.

Many women cheered Judy Steinberg as a relief and a breakthrough. Why should she have to feign subservience in 2003, or compromise as Hillary Rodham and Teresa Heinz did when they took their husbands' names? But many political analysts said that just as the remote technocrat Michael Dukakis needed Kitty around to warm him up, the emotionally chilly Howard Dean could benefit from the presence of someone who could illuminate his softer side. So far he has generated a lot of heat but little warmth.


~snip~
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