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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:48 PM
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This is why Bush must be stopped (among numerous other reasons)

http://rense.com/general47/spies.htm

US Aims to Recruit 1 in 24 US Citizens for Spying

Have you guys seen this? I hadn't until today - but no doubt they will try. I am now reminded of a radio advertisement a couple of months ago where there was an ad to "come work for the government" - looking for secret service types, between the ages of 18-26 (I think) - held at a big Ohio campus.

Snip:
The Bush Administration aims to recruit millions of United States citizens as domestic informants in a program likely to alarm civil liberties groups.

The Terrorism Information and Prevention System, or TIPS, means the US will have a higher percentage of citizen informants than the former East Germany through the infamous Stasi secret police. The program would use a minimum of 4 per cent of Americans to report "suspicious activity".


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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:52 PM
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1. This post is pretty suspicious
I think it is almost un-American so TIPS will be informed immediately. :evilgrin:
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:03 PM
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2. Didn't they try to fly this balloon a while back?
They were gonna have the mailman and the cable guy keeping tabs on us. It just pissed everybody off, so they said they were abandoning the idea.
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OpenMindedDem Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:11 PM
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4. Yes, this program was dismantled a year ago.
the bad idea never goes away...
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:27 PM
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7. It just changes names
i.e. Total Information Awareness became Terrorist Information Awareness...

That whay the're not totally lying when they say they have "gotten rid of that program".
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:36 PM
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8. They may or may not have gotten rid of the tips program
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 02:40 PM by kayell
but this article is based on an old article from July 15, 2002 in an Australian paper that was about the ORIGINAL TIPS program. There is no new info here to indicate that it is being revived under this or another name.

ADDED: In fact the article is the SAME as the July 15, 2002 article. A good clue is in the article itself where it says "Civil liberties groups have already warned that, with the passage earlier this year of the Patriot Act, there is potential for abusive, large-scale investigations of US citizens."

Total Information Awareness aka Terrorist Information Awareness is not the same as the TIPS program. TIA is Poindexters little database project with DARPA. TIPS was a DOJ program.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:08 PM
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3. Hey where do i sign up??
looks like the patriotic thing to do
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:19 PM
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5. Oh and then I find this too - frightening
http://slate.msn.com/id/2093707/

The Unlocked Box
How Bush is plundering Social Security to close the deficit.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:21 PM
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6. This is old and outdated news
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 02:22 PM by kayell
the source link for renses article is at the bottom of the page - an Aussie article from July 15, 2002. If you go to the .gov link they give, you find that the page has not been updated in a very long time, and that the links to the "neighborhood watch" type program are mostly dead.

While I don't put it past Ashcroft and * to try to resurrect this program, this isn't it.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:46 PM
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9. Good eye
sorry I didn't catch it. Not to say they won't try and revive it - they are up to something.
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