WTF?? How could officials announce this? Are we being set-up by the BFEE?

[ElementaryPenguin]

BFEE/PNAC Mob readying us for a 9-11 sequel?? Nazi press whores prepared to explain that this second attack was as unavoidable as the first - due to lax Clinton era defenses! Only when BushCo has all of America is converted to a military fortress - and a civil liberties suspended, will we truly be safe. Dick "Hit Man" Cheney going coast to coast lately, preaching to everyone within earshot - "look out, kid, you're gonna get hit!" Right before 9-11, Bushler incorporated a mentioning of suicide killings/bombings in EVERY single speech he gave!

:spank:
:wow:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3966322/

[ewagner]

1. Very disturbing

I was/am particularly shaken by Cheney's speech in California today.

[ElementaryPenguin]

2. Dr. Death is flat out one vile human being, is he not?

:puke:

[leftchick]

3. He is on c-span Right NOW!

repeating his disgusting rhetoric of FEAR!! If you have the stomach for it. I do not, he fucking creeps me out.

[Superfly]

4. BFEE - BEEF? Coincidence?

Mad cow, BFEE, BEEF, Bush's ranch?

[ElementaryPenguin]

6. Hmm. Even I had never thought of that one!

And I am tooooootal MIHOP Tin foil hatter!

:think:

[buycitgo]

12. what mad cow?

[Malva Zebrina]

13. HO ha haha--I love that Wizard guy

[DuctapeFatwa]

5. Don't think of it as an attack. "Unity Operation" sounds so much nicer

And if there is one thing we have learned from Operation Iraqi Freedom and the War on Terror, it's that Vocabulary is Key!

[ElementaryPenguin]

7. So clinical and antiseptic - like Faux News war coverage!

:argh:

[Cat Atomic]

8. I don't understand the argument.

It would be difficult to intercept a flight, unless the interceptors were already in the air? What difference does that make? You just scramble planes in the path of the passenger plane. Or scramble them in a 180 degree arc and hedge your bets.

Why's it so damn difficult to intercept an airliner, and why would be any less difficult if the fighters were already airborne?

[ElementaryPenguin]

9. But, but, but an F-16 could never be expected to catch up to a 747!!

Just as no weapon known to man can stop....BOX CUTTERS!! AAAAHHH!! NO - NOT THEM!!!

:spank:
:wow:

[RedSock]

10. add this into the mix

F.B.I. Director Calls Attack Quite Likely
By ERIC LICHTBLAU
Published: January 15, 2004

WASHINGTON, Jan. 14 — The F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, said on Wednesday that terrorists would "quite probably" strike the United States again and that Al Qaeda remained a major threat despite the lowering of the nation's threat status last week.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/15/national/15FBI.html

[ElementaryPenguin]

11. Holy shit! Could they be timing this to happen during the Dem primaries??

I wouldn't put it past the evil Bastards!

:argh:

[ieoeja]

14. Identification is the problem.

If someone commandeers a flight five minutes after takeoff from Baltimore or DC, they have maybe ten minutes for:

1. an air traffic controller to Q&A the flight, decide something is wrong, and notify his manager,

2. the manager to review the situation, make a decision and notify TSA,

3. some guy at TSA to notify some guy at NORAD,

4. NORAD to notify the closest air base with an intercept on stand-by,

5. air base personnel to get a pilot in a fighter and in the air,

6. the fighter to intercept and shoot down the airliner.

And I wouldn't be at all surprised if I am leaving a few steps out of that. What sort of direct line do they have to TSA and TSA have to NORAD? Does the contact person at TSA have authority to act?

[ElementaryPenguin]

19. 47 minutes after the SECOND plane hits the WTC - they certainly knew

and left D.C. COMPLETELY defenseless from the air!!! No way in the world you can possibly rationalize that!! The plane that hit the Pentagon had it's choice of anything in town!! That spells LIHOP - at the very least!!!

:mad:
:argh:

[althecat]

21. Damn right EP.... the planes took off from Boston Not Baltimore...

Plus.. if the planes took off from Baltimore the hijackers would have to move damn fast after takeoff to take over the plane... probably getting out of their seats and raiding the cockpit before the seatbelts sign was off...

[Q]

15. The obvious question:

Why did Bush* throw all our resources at Iraq if "al-Qaida" is the real threat?

[ComerPerro]

16. You know what this means?

I think we are possibly on the verge of finding out that BushCo could have stopped 9/11 and had more than enough warnings. This likely means that they deliberately let it happen. But all we will hear really is how we had all the information, but still the attacks weren't stopped.

Essentially, I think they are preparing us for their BS dodging and excuse-making.

I am really disappointed with the country right now anyway. With all of the sycophantic FReepers out there who love Bush more than America, Bush could admidt that they deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen and the FReepers, OReilleys, Hannitys, and Coulters of the world would still defend them.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

17. yep

that's pretty much what I think.

[Cocoa]

18. intelligence committee has promised public hearings soon

and now with the O'Neill stuff, they may be pressured even more, to do what the dems have been demanding, and looking at the WH's role.

[Old and In the Way]

20. If they were complicit..........

We need to be prepared for the future "event". I suspect that we will not be taken by surprise the next time it happens....given what we know about their agenda now and the way they allowed a "Pearl Harbor" act to occur to drive their distinctly un-American policies in the domestic and international arena's.

If they are criminally liable for their actions on 9/11, would not this "event" be expected? After all, if you are directly/indirectly responsible for the deaths of 3,000 Americans, I guess that'd be treason and punishable by a death. Desperate criminal-murderers, when cornered, certainly will not think twice to murder again if it will save their miserable arses.

Fight Terror. Vote Democrat.

[ElementaryPenguin]

26. "Won't Get Fooled Again" is my moto these days, O&ITW!

:tinfoilhat:
:yourock:

[Th1onein]

22. I have said it for a while now

I think that they let it happen on purpose and that they are going to let it happen on purpose again. They are going to let an atomic bomb hit a major population center in this country right before the election and then they are going to declare martial law and put a hold on the presidential elections. Maybe I'm paranoid, but things are really looking bad if Cheney is already talking about it.

[ElementaryPenguin]

29. Jeez - the scariest thing for me is that I think like you think!

I really believe these monsters are quite capable of ALL of that!

:mad:
:scared:

[Kazak]

33. Yeah, the way they are pissing people off left and right...

makes me think that they already know that they are not going to have to win any stinkin' election...scary!!

[DoYouEverWonder]

23. Dick really needs to get out more often

He has no clue what the world is really like anymore.

If he didn't live such a sheltered life he might find out that most humans aren't out to kill each other and that the world really isn't that different since 9-11. Has a matter of fact, he would be amazed at how little it's changed.

[ElementaryPenguin]

27. <Groan> How I loathe to hear people say "everything's changed since 9-11"

Such a pathetically American egocentric thing to proclaim!! Of course it was terrible, but I'm sure more people than that die of starvation - every day - perhaps children alone!

:argh:

[Minstrel Boy]

28. And I still hear Georgie One-Note talk about how the oceans

"don't protect" America anymore.

Of course they don't. With a Bush in the White House, what does?

[SemperEadem]

24. what is BFEE and PNAC?

I've seen it written a lot around here and can't find a definition

[loudsue]

25. Here ya go...

BFEE = Bush Family Evil Empire

PNAC = Project for the New American Century (a policy paper drawn up by the megalomaniacal chicken-hawks who run the military industrial complex, stating that they need to take over the world, basically.)

You can go to google.com and look up "Project for the New American Century" for the link to read the paper. It's pretty damn scary, and shows that they intended to have an event such as 9/11 happen, so "the people" would get behind whatever maniacal war-starting ideas they came up with. (Iraq, for one. Premeditated murder, plain and simple.)

:kick:

[peacetalksforall]

30. I think the key to understanding Cheney and Friends is money

Whatever their plan - it's obvious that they haven't made enough money yet - you can tell from everything they've said and done from creating hate for the French, Germans, and Canadians that they expected to go it alone - with a select group of their corporations raking it in in Iraq. Now, they have to split it up too much and they have to risk or insure the pipelines getting blown up, so they need ways to compensate and manuever to attain their monetary goal.

God help us.

[SammyWinstonJack]

31. How much money do they f***ing need?

I bet the World would take up a collection too pay 'em off, if it meant getting rid of these evil scumbags once and for all!

[pscot]

32. I thought they already had it all

I sure as shit don't have any.

[banana republican]

34. WHAT SHOULD OUR RESPONSE BE???

Assume for the moment that * MIHOP's a second event.

What should the DU do???

What should we as individuals do???

[plaguepuppy]

35. Assume for the moment that...

Depressingly easy for this old cynic at least. But not an easy question to answer: will the internet still be running? will sites like DU still be allowed?

And more to the point: how successful will their attempt to institute martial law be? This would be the fruition of a long line of planning (Cable Splicer, REX-84, etc.) on the part of the Nixon/Bush dream team now in power, but will half the country really be willing to incarcerate the other half?

[neebob]

36. I heard that on the radio this morning

The gist of it was that once a hijacked plane is in the air, it's difficult to get to it in time so it's best to prevent hijackings on the ground. And I thought (a) I don't believe the part about not getting to it in time and (b) why is this on the news right now?