Al Martin on "The Guy James Show" today at 3pm

[BeachBuckeye]

Want to hear the latest corruption stories about the Bush Family Evil Empire? Listen to the show today and Al will fill you in on the latest. Live from 3 to 6pm eastern time at www.theguyjamesshow.com or if you live in S.W. Florida 1200AM WPTK "PowerTalk 1200"

[thebigidea]

1. someone ask him about "Karl Roverer" then burst into a high pitched laugh

I'm still waiting for those flying death orbs. And the gray-uniformed cybercops.

Otherwise, he seems like a nice enough guy.

[BeachBuckeye]

2. What are you talking about?

?????

[thebigidea]

3. he wrote a ridiculous article claiming that Karl Rove had Nazi

ancestors or somesuch.

"According to reliable sources, as well as our own Al Martin Raw.com
investigation, Karl Rove is, in fact, the grandson of Karl Heinz
Roverer, the gauleiter of Mecklenburg, who was also a partner and senior engineer of Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurb¸ro AG.
They built Birchenau, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany."

Uh huh. When asked for sources, he tells you to go do your own investigation.

Martin turns up some interesting, exceedingly paranoid stuff - the kind I love to read at 2-4am, but stuff like this "Mecklenburg" thing raise about a billion red flags.

He also claimed that dearest Karl Rove is a dual citizen of the US and Germany with "special diplomatic status." Now, I know he has a certain Nazi taste, but uh - are his papers REALLY in order?

[JanMichael]

4. Martin was pushing a story that Rove's family was a major Nazi...

...clan. That he's the grandson of Karl Heinz Rover, a notable Nazi.

I don't know the ultimate outcome of the inquiries into the veracity of that charge.

[thebigidea]

5. here's a bit I found via google

re:Siege Heil: The Bush-Rove-Schwarzenegger Nazi Nexus
by Peter Tanzer
October 12, 2003

Dear Sirs:

The article mentioning the Nazi family connections of Karl Rove is journalistic sham, and you ought to be ashamed of publishing a piece in which you rely on such sources as Al Martin, who, if it is a real person, has no idea what he is talking about. First, he wrote that Karl Heinz Roverer was the Gauleiter of Mecklenburg, which is not so. The Gauleiter of Mecklenburg was SS Obergruppenfuhrer Friedrich Hildebrandt, who was sentenced to hang by the United States War Crimes court at Dachau in 1947, according to the History of the United Naitons War Crimes Commision and the Development of the Laws of War, London, HMSO, 1948, pp.521-524 (Many other sources confirm this). So Al Martin changed it (also incorrectly) to Gauleiter of Oldenburg. In fact, there was a Karl Roever von Oldenburg (and not Karl Heinz Roeverer as you report, perhaps to link him to the Roeverer's who help contruct the instruments of death at Birkenau?) who was Gauleiter of Wesen-Ems, and not of Oldenburg, which didn't have a Gauleiter. He had nothing to do with Birkenau and was not a war -criminal. In fact, he was likely assassinated by the Nazi's themselves because of his unwanted efforts to make peace with the British. I have no idea whether the Karl Rove we all know bears any relation to this Roever, and apparently neither do the authors of the flimsy piece you published.

I would like to make a general point concerning this type of publishing behavior. The people who are orchestrating the distressing "war on terrorism" are sinister enough. Journalists who, in attempting to expose them, have so little regard for truth that they prefer to repeat obviously suspicious "information" in the hopes of scoring an easy hit (this matter was easily checked as part of public record, and relying, in such cases, on internet crackpots is no substitute for that checking) cannot be anything but counter-productive.

[BeachBuckeye]

6. So who's article is this?

What is the source quoted here?

[thebigidea]

7. the guy's name is on it, I found it on freepress

anyway, the Bush creeps have enough dirt on them without having to make it up.

If this were real, we would've been ALL OVER IT. It would come up on every single Bush=Hitler thread.

[supercrash]

8. Martin claims...

That Wilson used the word Roverer to describe Rove...then he looked into it

[JanMichael]

9. Has Wilson verified that he called Rove that?

If so, why he called him that? Some reason?

Maybe he just meant that Rove was a rugged dark wanderer...

[thebigidea]

10. hmmm... that sounds suspicious too

wasn't Wilson's line about frogmarching Rove out of the WH?

Here's what Martin wrote:

"Ambassador Joseph Wilson has been turning up the heat in this situation. He revealed on Friday August 29 in a symposium in Washington the person in the Bush administration, who had leaked it out to the Washington Post that Wilson's wife is a CIA agent of 26 years.

As a consequence of this leak, her entire team of overseas assets were liquidated. The leaker, it turns out, was none other than the notorious Karl H. Rove, Bush's so-called White House advisor. Ambassador Wilson identified him as Karl Roverer, with the umlaut over the "o."

--

Hmmm.

[OneTwentyoNine]

11. Big Bump for Guy James Show....eom

[nostamj]

12. well, i've heard some pretty 'out there' things

from Al Martin. but, I'll be listening!

and, BTW... :kick:

[nostamj]

13. GUY! please check out this thread

i really hope you can mention this on the show. it's probably too late but it would be great to get a call from one of the organizers.

www.mfso.org (among others) are planning a powerful demonstration to take place during the SOTU speech:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1027901

[BeachBuckeye]

14. if you know anyone from these groups

have them call in 888-602-7500 7501 7502 7503 7504

[nostamj]

15. already DONE!

expect a call from DU's Mari333 in the first hour! she's called before (she had the son caught up in the StopLoss BS and now her stepson is being shipped out)

have a great show!