Now bush* Is Begging the UN for Help. PNAC Plan Toast?

[leftchick]

Here is the WP article that made me wonder if the PNACers are scrambling for plan B.

Snip: UN Support Crucial In Iraq, US Says

<The United States plans to ask the United Nations on Monday to play an active role in virtually every aspect of the political transition in Iraq, from overseeing the selection of an Iraqi government and writing new laws to the transfer of power when the U.S. occupation ends on June 30, senior U.S. officials said yesterday.

The Bush administration and the Iraqi Governing Council will appeal Monday to the United Nations in New York to dispatch a team of envoys to meet with Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani to convince him that holding fair elections is impossible in the limited time left, the officials said.

"We'd like to see the U.N. involved in everything -- the whole political process. The issue now is, will they do this, and then how do they do this," said a senior State Department official.>


....This raises lots of questions if the UN takes over this mess. Do our troops stay and fight the never-ending war like Afghanistan? Do we pull out just enough troops, start the draft and on to Syria since the tv won't be covering Iraq anymore or is their plan totally screwed? I wonder what those neocons are up to.

[acmavm]

1. What they are up to is easy to see. They are trying to find some

patsy to cover their asses and take over the mess that we've made. That way they'll be able to claim that they liberated an oppressed people and brought them democracy and a better way of life. And then any problems that start from the point the UN takes over on will then be blamed on everybody but the neo-con artists that created this whole situation. The end.

[snippy]

9. I agree completely and would add that this will free up troops for the

Next Bush War.

[elfin]

2. W gave them a deadline predicated, of course, on election timing

and now they are scrambling.

In the end, now they don't care at all who is elected, as long as they have enforceable oil contracts and can crow about "democratic process" brought to the Middle East by W. After the election, they can return to install their own guy if need be.

Here's a thought - Saddam is still alive - what if someone has a write-in for him and he wins?????

[veracity]

3. no...just another election ruse

Bush needs to find a way to tell the voters that democracy has been brought to Iraq. He also has to make it seem that he has an exit strategy set up. He desperately needs the UN now....and that's OK with PNAC. If things don't work out.. he can blame the UN. Just as NATO took over in Afghanistan, Bush will relinquish some authority (not money) in Iraq - and then move on to Syria (and possibly the Sudan) after he's elected. This is PNAC plan B....they're in complete charge....not to worry for a moment.

[legin]

4. My guess

Electioneering.

This is bush* playing to the moderate middle in the u.s., who have not quite been propagandised enough so that they not are ready to dump the UN yet, unlike bush*'s hardline base.

It's bush* doing his 'compassionate conservative' act again.

bush* will let the 'nice face' of his government, Powell, have his head for while until the election whilst the neo-cons go onto the backburner, and then if bush* wins it will be back to normal.

I hope the UN don't fall for this garbage.

[leftchick]

6. I hope the UN doesn't give shrub an inch...

Kofi is no dummy, I am sure he sees the politics in all of this. All he has to do is stall for a while before enacting any plan. That would fuck-up the 30 June deadline of Handover and viola! Chimp* is toast in November!! I can only hope!

[kentuck]

5. Because the Ayatollah refuses to negotiate with them....

They do not want the direct elections that he wishes. So they want the UN to come in as a "middle man" to try and negotiate with him. Will anyone have more luck? Remains to be seen.

[leftchick]

7. I can't see al-Sistani being swayed by diplomats...

he is a hardliner after all. Sheesh this was all predicted , what a mess...

[9215]

8. Playpen politics

Now Bush, the sniveling, whining, gutless sleaze goes whining sniveling and whining to the UN to clean up his shithouse mess, like a child whining in its own playpen full of shit. There is no signifigant difference between the child and Bush.
FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!

The UN should say OK.....yea....we will help AFTER we have war crimes trials for you and your fascist cabal. Deal?

[Sophree]

10. Read this

http://truthout.org/docs_04/011504F.shtml

Last Copter Out of Baghdad
By Rick Perlstein
Village Voice

Wednesday 14 January 2004

Bush Flees Iraq Mess on the Campaign Express
George Bush is selling out Iraq. Gone are his hard-liners' dreams of setting up a peaceful, prosperous, and democratic republic, a light unto the Middle Eastern nations. The decision makers in the administration now realize these goals are unreachable. So they've set a new goal: to end the occupation by July 1, whether that occupation has accomplished anything valuable and lasting or not. Just declare victory and go home. The tyranny of Saddam Hussein will be over. But a new tyranny will likely take its place: the tyranny of civil war, as rival factions rush into the void. Such is the mess this president seems willing to leave behind in order to save his campaign.

"The Bush game plan is to have pictures of some U.S. troops leaving and the Iraqis opening their own government, the U.S. having presided over the birth of this new embryonic democracy," observes former Clinton White House adviser Sidney Blumenthal. The problem is, there will be no Iraqi democracy. There might not even be a viable Iraqi government. Instead, Baghdad will become Beirut: Iraq's three major religious and ethnic groups, the Sunnis, the Shiites, and the Kurds, will consolidate their respective positions in the center, south, and north of the country, recruit their militias, and get down to fighting for control of the power vacuum that is the post-war "peace."

Once again, as so often in these last few months, an analogy is Vietnam. And, as so often in the last three years, the analogous president is Nixon.

***snip**

[pacifictiger]

11. civil war

means a way for weapons merchants to continue to make big bucks. I wish someone was investigating and publicizing who owns stock and makes money from other people's misery.

[leftchick]

13. exactly what I was afraid of....

and so it goes.... :(

[Terwilliger]

12. That stale old den of panty-waists?

The measure giving Bush the authority to use military force, if necessary, to rid Iraq of its biological and chemical weapons and disband its nuclear weapons program was approved Friday.

The resolution requires the president to notify Congress, before or within 48 hours after an attack, that further diplomatic approaches would not have protected U.S. security and to explain to Congress how the military action will not hurt the war on terror. But it allows Bush to take unilateral action regardless of U.N. activities.


THANK YOU, PINK TUTU'S!

[Malva Zebrina]

14. I think they planned it that way

just up and leave after getting what you want(corporatism and control of the oil) and let someone else deal with the mayhem.(See Afganistan)
There is no moral committment at all. The only committment is corporatism and securing that country's assets for the US corporations and buddies of Cheney and Bush. That's all it was about--all the lies, all the bluster and all the despicable killings.

and after dumping it on the UN, then free up the soldiers to go on to another war--Syria or Iran--

I would think that is plan--and no one will or can do anything about it should George Bush decide that Syria is ours also. The UN could not stop it then and cannot stop it going further. So, Bush is riding high and probably laughing at the predicament he put the UN in now.