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Sun Jan-18-04 03:55 PM
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Why do polls show more Americans trust Democrats with the economy? |
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Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 03:58 PM by rumguy
One word: Clinton
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Sun Jan-18-04 03:56 PM
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1. I'd also say one word, but it would be: Bush. |
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Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 04:35 PM by Cat Atomic
He's a disaster.
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Sun Jan-18-04 04:13 PM
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4. Both words are good ones... |
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Don't expect the repukes to use the trite banner of "The fiscally responsible party" this time 'round. They've used it for 20+ years, yet are responsible for the outrageous mess we're in.
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Sun Jan-18-04 04:09 PM
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2. Actually, a better question is... |
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How are repugs ever considered fiscally responsible? They typically have less impressive records economically speaking during their terms in office than Dems. Higher unemployment, unbalanced budgets, the works. Those are the facts!
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Sun Jan-18-04 04:11 PM
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I'm not going to let that illusion stand. One of the biggest reasons that the South hates Democrats is because Clinton signed NAFTA. http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/issuebriefs_ib168All 50 states and the District of Columbia have experienced a net loss of jobs since the implementation of NAFTA in 1994 and the creation of the WTO in 1995. Between 1994 and 2000, the U.S. lost more than 3 million jobs and job opportunities-equal to 2.3% of the labor force. (For details, see the EPI Briefing Paper, Fast Track to Lost Jobs). Exports rose over the period, but imports rose faster, yielding net job loss figures ranging from a low of 6,000 in North Dakota to a high of 310,000 in California. Other hard-hit states-over 100,000 jobs lost in each-include Texas, New York, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio, North Carolina, Indiana, and Florida. These states have high concentrations of the kinds of industries (motor vehicles, textiles and apparel, computers and electrical appliances) for which production has moved to export-processing zones in China, Mexico, and other countries since the implementation of NAFTA and the WTO.The 10 states suffering the highest rates of job losses are Rhode Island (5.8%), North Carolina (3.7%), Maine (3.6%), Tennessee (3.6%), Indiana (3.4%), Mississippi (3.3%), Michigan (3.2%), Alabama (3.1%), Arkansas (3.1%), and South Carolina (3.0%). (For a full list, see Fast Track to Lost Jobs, Table 2B.)http://www.prospect.org/print-friendly/print/V12/7/reich-r.html The dirtiest little secret about the Roaring Nineties is that average working families gained almost no income, while their health care costs soared. From 1986 through 1997 (the latest year for which detailed IRS data are available), the average income of the richest 1 percent of Americans rose 89 percent, to $517,713. During these same years, the average income of the bottom 90 percent of Americans rose 1.6 percent, to $23,815. (These figures, not incidentally, are after all federal income taxes were paid.)
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Sun Jan-18-04 04:14 PM
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Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 04:15 PM by HypnoToad
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The dirtiest little secret about the Roaring Nineties is that average working families gained almost no income, while their health care costs soared. From 1986 through 1997 (the latest year for which detailed IRS data are available), the average income of the richest 1 percent of Americans rose 89 percent, to $517,713. During these same years, the average income of the bottom 90 percent of Americans rose 1.6 percent, to $23,815. (These figures, not incidentally, are after all federal income taxes were paid.)
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Sun Jan-18-04 04:24 PM
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6. which part did you forget? |
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Sun Jan-18-04 04:33 PM
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8. FYI, those figures leave out 1998-2000 |
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which is when the economy was strongest under Clinton.
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Sun Jan-18-04 04:54 PM
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I'll call it "the period when the stock market was at it's most bloated point". A lot of techies on these boards know all about the H1B visas since this was used as a bargaining chip in contract negotiations against them. IT workers, most government workers, and factory workers took it in the ass. Plenty of workers in the private sector took it in the ass too as far as pensions were concerned.
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Sun Jan-18-04 04:31 PM
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7. Dems had problems in the South way before NAFTA |
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Remember Nixon's Southern strategy? NAFTA's not even close to being the top reason Dems fare poorly in the South. The South is more conservative culturally, religiously and politically, period.
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Sun Jan-18-04 05:13 PM
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10. the problem is that Democrats keep on adding to these |
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Sun Jan-18-04 05:16 PM
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give Clinton credit for the economy during the 90s. The media doesn't really question this that much so people believe it. Not much else to it I wouldn't think.
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Sun Jan-18-04 05:17 PM
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Herbert Hoover. It sure worked for a long time and it should have. Democrats did well because they governed well.
The independents/undecideds liked Democrats. They didn't have to think. These guys know how to make it work. An easy vote.
Poor Clinton he had to sweep the tide with a push broom. It was better. Clinton governed. However the vulgers were ever there. They waited and waited.
Bill was always the road-runner. Not the good days 1933-1974 but they didn't roll us. BEEP,BEEP. Newt had to resign. Not the BiG DOG.
I thought things might even get better.
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