BayCityProgressive
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Tue Jan-20-04 02:48 PM
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so Lets say a Democrat does win in 04 and lets say we win back the Senate. What would you expect to be realistically passed by the president and through the senate?
I think strengthening of hate crimes could be passed along with protection for GLBT.
Anti-job discrimination for GLBT.
I expect racial profiling to be outlawed.
I would expect to sign on to Kyoto, and the international court.
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Tue Jan-20-04 02:54 PM
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would like to see a hard line stance on corps taking our jobs overseas and cancelation of all H1B visas. We really need this or we wont have anyone left to sell Big Macs to.
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Tue Jan-20-04 02:57 PM
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2. Interesting question... |
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Tue Jan-20-04 02:57 PM
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Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 02:58 PM by bowens43
Without control of the house AND the senate, nothing of substance will change. Chances of winning back the Senate are very slim and the house , non-existent. At best we can expect grid lock.
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Tue Jan-20-04 02:58 PM
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I would expect to sign on to Kyoto
When Clinton was President the Senate voted 95-0 against Kyoto. Why would they do a total flip flop now?
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Tue Jan-20-04 03:03 PM
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I'm a New England pessimist, so I'd be ecstatic with one or the other and expect neither.
I would expect we'd get the Bush tax cuts for the rich revoked. That money would then be used to upgrade our infrastructure and power grid and create jobs.
A serious re-look at fixing the just passed prescription drug 'benefit.'
Hopefully, we will start getting real, useful information back up on government websites, even if conflicts with the agenda of the Religious Reich.
I don't think we'll get any big GLBT issues, as the Religious Reich would filibuster anything serious.
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Tue Jan-20-04 03:05 PM
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6. A Democratic president will have to raise taxes...Bush's tax cuts for the |
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wealthy...have to be made up...don't you see IT YET...the republicans are the big spenders and increase THE deficit, give themselves and their rich corporate contributors HUGE tax cuts...
THEN A DEMOCRAT IS FORCED TO RAISE TAXES TO LOWER THE DEFICIT AND SUPPORT SOCIAL PROGRAMS THE REPUBLICANS HAVE ALL BUT ABANDONED.
THEN AS ALWAYS THE REPUBLICANS POINT THE FINGER, AND SAY, SEE THE DEMOCRATS ALWAYS WANT TO RAISE YOUR TAXES AND THEY JUST SPEND AND SPEND...
IT'S A CIRCLE THAT KEEPS GETTING REPUBLICANS THE HUGE SLICE OF THE PIE AND WHY THEY ALWAYS KEEP GETTING ELECTED...JUST KEEP SAYING THE DEMOCRATS WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES AND OF COURSE IT'S TRUE...BECAUSE THE REPUGS DON'T CARE ABOUT DEFICITS, THEY JUST SPEND ON HUGE MILITARY AND OTHER PROGRAMS THEY OWN, GIVE THEMSELVES THE HUGE TAX CUTS...THEN IT'S...LET THE DEMS FIX IT WHEN IT'S THEIR TURN AND THEN THEY'LL SIMPLY POINT THE FINGER AT THE DEMOCRATS AS TAX AND SPEND...SHIT, THEY ARE FORCED TO AFTER YEARS OF REPUBLICAN RULE!
IT'S ALWAYS WORKED AND IT ALWAYS WILL...BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR HEADS UP THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES AND DON'T WANT TO LOOK PAST THEIR SPORTS TEAMS AND WHAT BRITNEY IS WEARING AND WHO KILLED WHOM, ETC.ETC...FORGET THE FACT THEY ARE GETTING FUCKED REAL GOOD BY THESE REPUGS!
KEEP AMERICA DUMB SO REPUBLICANS CAN ALWAYS RULE
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Tue Jan-20-04 03:35 PM
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the Republicans were the ones worried about the deficits. So they kept calling for higher taxes to pay for Democratic social programs AND keep up defense spending.
THEY were the minority party then.
Lower taxes seem to be a winning plank with the American voters for some reason.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:00 PM
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15. Yes, but they never get any of the benefits, when taxes are lowered. |
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The wealthy see it, but social programs get screwed, they cut sevices, in turn less people to oversee important things like enviorment, and then it get exploited...on and on...so fuck them, make coporations and the rich pay more taxes, or at the very least their fair share!
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Wed Jan-21-04 12:11 PM
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22. They get lower taxes. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-21-04 12:14 PM by forgethell
I may be in the minority on this board, but with two dependent children, I got a substantial kick in the bank account. And I am NOT rich, although I am not poor, either.
But my point was really more about what wins elections than the benefits of various tax/tax cuts programs.
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Tue Jan-20-04 03:06 PM
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the 'Fairness Doctrine'. We got to neutralize the 'librul' media.
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Tue Jan-20-04 03:24 PM
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8. Liberal use of the veto pen |
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Stalled appointments. Legislative gridlock. It could be bloody indeed.
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Tue Jan-20-04 03:24 PM
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- Broader access to affordable health care - Re-establish nuclear non-proliferation treaties - Repeal of Patriot Act - Sign on to Kyoto - Fairer trade agreements - Equal protection for GLBT - Re-establish science, not politics, as guide for EPA, FDA, etc. - A repudiation of pre-emptive wars
How's that for starters?
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Tue Jan-20-04 03:32 PM
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10. Most important (for me) |
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no backdoor appointments of reich wing racist judges and nutcase attorney generals.
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Tue Jan-20-04 03:43 PM
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I believe you are talking about recess appointments. And to eliminate these would take a constitutional amendment. Not going to happen.
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Tue Jan-20-04 07:46 PM
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with a Democratic President, the recess appointments won't be reich wing bigots!
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Tue Jan-20-04 03:36 PM
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12. REPEAL The "Patriot Act" |
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Tue Jan-20-04 04:03 PM
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14. And roll back the tax cuts, and ... |
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reverse Dubya's changes to environmental regs, labor regs, federal rules regarding publication of scientific and expert findings, and so on.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:05 PM
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Every American should be able to go as far as they want in school. So many of or problems would simply disappear if we had a well educated citizenry.
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE!
Goddamn it!, we are the richest country in the history of the world. There is NO EXCUSE...NONE!!, that people are without health care.
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:55 PM
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This is an interesting question
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Tue Jan-20-04 08:10 PM
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19. nice wish lists posted here. |
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but don't expect anything like real change or help for working families, clark/kerry/dean are defenders of the status quo and will be beholden to corporate interests like the last dem. president.
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Tue Jan-20-04 09:59 PM
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Actually, that's pretty optimistic. I ask myself what would the Dems do if they regained the presidency and the senate? Well, looking at Bill Clinton and how his 1st 2 years with a DEMOCRATIC Congress went, I am very skeptical about many of the things you mentioned being passed. Why? Here are the reasons:
1. Democrats don't have the same sense of drive and teamwork the GOP has. It seems there is always a sizeable number of conservative Dems that will break with the party and vote with the GOP against such progressive issues you mention. This happened so many times during Clinton's 1st 2 years it made me sick. And it STILL happens today, even though Democrats control nothing!
2. Things such as racial profiling would not be abolished because there is a quiet support for it among a considerable segment of our population. It isnt the PC thing to admit that, but it does exist among the less enlightened. Democrats are slaves to the polls and public opinion. They have not shown the inclination to do anything so bold yet.
3. As for Kyoto, if I recall correctly, the Clinton Adminstration didnt exactly make Kyoto an issue worth going to war with the GOP over. You have to remember, many of the same corporate powers that oppose Kyoto also make hefty contributions to many "moderate" and "conservative" democrats. Even with a democratic congress, Kyoto wouldn't pass-the sound of big money is louder that the sound of environmentalists making good sense.
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Tue Jan-20-04 10:06 PM
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are MUCH more important than the far-left demands for more protections for "victims".....
If a Democrat wins this year (and I think it WILL happen), he must deal with the deficit, health care, a FAIR tax policy....so many things that trump the issues spouted by the cultural left that DOOM Democrats in elections.
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