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Tue Jan-20-04 04:20 PM
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Poll question: Would you vote for this Democrat or that Republican? |
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If there was a race between a traditional Democrat - pro-Social Security, pro-Medicare, pro-Union, but who was a conservative Christian, and was seen as anti-choice and anti-LGBT, and a traditional Republican - pro-market, pro-privatization, pro-tax cuts, pro-corporate, but was socially liberal, pro-LGBT and pro-choice, who would you vote for?
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Tue Jan-20-04 04:24 PM
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2. Social liberal part is more important to me |
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I'm not gonna vote for a anti-choice, anti-civil rights candidate. I'd take the pro-choice Republican.
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Tue Jan-20-04 04:29 PM
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3. This will be interesting |
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I have always felt that DU was, first and foremost, a cultural-left message board. I have tried to argue for more culturally "centrist" policies and a progressive economic agenda which, I feel, is more in tune with the majority of this country. But, others feel just the opposite and I respect that - just disagree. Will be interesting to watch this poll.....good idea....thanks for posting it!
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Tue Jan-20-04 04:38 PM
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6. "cultural-left message board" |
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Yes. I've been here for a long time, and done polls like this before, and quite frankly, most of the people here are more pro-market Libertarian types than traditional labor Democrats.
You'd be surprised at how many pro-corporate, "free trade" privatizers there are on here.
This will change as the outsourcing and layoffs continue, but of course by then it will be too late. The right to choose will be affirmed, and no one will be able to afford to get an abortion or pre-natal care. Gays will be able to get married, but they won't be able to afford a honeymoon - this is progress?
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Tue Jan-20-04 04:31 PM
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4. This is the Zell Miller vs Lincoln Chafee thread I take it. |
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If so it's a no brainer for me.
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Tue Jan-20-04 04:35 PM
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Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 04:37 PM by economic justice
Zell Miller is no "economic liberal".....he has a very rightwing economic record as a senator. I think a better example is Harold Ford, Jr. or Senator Lieberman. Both of which I would take over the hypothetical Republican.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:17 PM
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8. so far, this seems more like Libertarian Underground |
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than Democratic Underground, doesn't it?
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:20 PM
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I have thought this was the case. I always notice how threads that address economic "bread and butter" issues fall by the wayside fairly fast, where threads that address the social or cultural issues fill up with posts. "Libertarian Underground"....that's pretty funny! (But also probably closer to the truth than we'd care to admit!!)
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:07 PM
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9. I don't think either Harold Ford or Sen. Lieberman fit the profile |
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Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 06:08 PM by pmbryant
I'm quite sure Lieberman's record on the abortion question is very pro-choice (and his record on gay rights is also very progressive, I think). And I suspect the same is true of Ford, though I'm not as familiar with his record.
--Peter
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:13 PM
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7. First point out one of each. |
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The Republican, particularly -- null set.
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:28 PM
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Pro-choice, pro-LGBT rights - socially liberal - and a reactionary on the economy, like most Republicans.
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:42 PM
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12. It's partially a matter of phrasing. |
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If you'd just said that the Democrat was a social conservative and left it at that, then there would have been no contest. But when you say Anti-choice and Anti-GLBT, I get ugly mental pictures of Ralph Reid and that Fred Phelps fucker. The way you ask a question makes a lot of difference in a poll.
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Tue Jan-20-04 07:08 PM
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14. you're right of course |
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I said "is seen as" but yeah, I could have done a much better job phrasing that one.
Maybe I should have said, "against partial birth abortion, and against gay marriage?"
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Tue Jan-20-04 07:31 PM
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I was thinking of someone more neutral and pragmatic than suggested. There are a lot of gray areas out there, you know. Just because a person defines himself as a Christian conservative doesn't necessarily mean that he hates all gay people and he runs around screaming "baby killer." Kind of like all liberals don't smoke pot while their contemplating how to get hold of everyone's guns.
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:48 PM
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tough. :shrug: Can I just stay home.
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Tue Jan-20-04 07:46 PM
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I would never trust a repug, they are liars and theives and what they may say and what they actually do are two different things.
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Tue Jan-20-04 10:52 PM
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17. Doesn't anyone care about the empire? Where does that fit in? |
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I can't answer the question without knowing which one will be the war-monger.
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Tue Jan-20-04 11:18 PM
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18. I don't know what I would do... |
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Tue Jan-20-04 11:46 PM
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19. Fits right in with sociology |
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I had read somewhere that people with lower incomes tend to be economically liberal but socially conservative.
People with higher incomes tend to be more socially liberal but economically conservative.
Judging from the results so far, Screw the poor, Get out of my bedroom seems to be winning.
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