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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:33 PM
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Official SOTU Thread 4
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:34 PM
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1. There is something wrong with my left speaker
I don't hear anything on that side. Can anyone help?
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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6. Wiggle the knob
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jmags Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:37 PM
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21. How many countries actually contributed troops?
If I'm not mistaken that ridiculous roll call was yet another lie, more particularly his statement of "17 other countries who have committed troops to Iraq."

Besides that, I thought it was funny how he phrased it along the lines of "those who want to internationalize should explain this to...

Someone should explain to him these countries are the most vocal in the desire to internationalize the Iraqi process.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:34 PM
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2. HE SAID THE "G" WORD!!!!!!!!
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:34 PM
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3. God loves freedom
Oh, unless you're gay and you want to marry, you want your privacy, you live in Iraq, etc etc etc
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:38 PM
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30. Amen. (nt)
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Jackhammer Jesus Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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4. THANK GOD!
El Salvador supports the war in Iraq.

GOD BLESS MURKA. TERRA TERRA TERRA
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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5. This really is sickening...n/t
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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the Kool-Aid kids
don't need a permission slip. teacher
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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7. he dropped a god bomb
for the sake of the fundies...combined it with national security...
sounds like he wants a holy war in the ME....what a moran
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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8. God referenence, for own gain =1
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:36 PM
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15. go teddy ... it's ya birthday ...
Teddy is so cool to be giving attitude while on camera!

Dean lists states, Dubya lists members of the coalition of the clueless.

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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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9. Reliable news, just like FOX
lol
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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10. forward strategy of reform in ME - I think he just endorsed pnac
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Osiris Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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11. Bush is one lying son of a bitch.
I can't stand to look at him. :grr:
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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12. He's trying to act tough by looking towards the Dem's on the terror issues
that smirk!! What an arrogant piece of crap.

I guess that applause over the Patriot Act expiring Pissed him off!

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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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13. He's going to make a new propaganda network in the ME
Will Faux run it?
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:35 PM
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14. Why are broadcasters
Broadcasting in "Persin" God, what a chimp.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:36 PM
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16. Fair news coverage in the mid east, LETS START THAT HERE!!!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:36 PM
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17. No desire to dominate, no ambition to empire
What a lying POS. Ask CHENEY about empire
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:36 PM
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18. "the dignity and riots of every human being"
Could've sworn he said that instead of "rights"
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:36 PM
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19. God loves freedom..but only our god and our definition of freedom
No that motherfucker did not just say America has no desire to dominate...they lying sag of shit. That's all he is about...


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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:37 PM
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Condi looks terrified
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Jackhammer Jesus Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:37 PM
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20. Okay, anybody else notice this...?
Before the war, Bush said "weapons of mass destruction."

During the war and early after the war, he said "weapons of mass murder."

Now it's mysteriously changed to "weapons of mass destruction related programs."

Come on, Dubya. Pick one and stick with it. Personally, I think he ought to just say nucular.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:38 PM
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29. it gets more and more passive and obfuscated
very funny. You can tell Karen's back! Yee :puke:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM
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56. posted in wrong place
Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 09:43 PM by jchild
posted wrong place.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:37 PM
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22. Corporate Scandals he hasn't touched
And he is STILL harping on his tax cuts as being the economic stimulus.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:37 PM
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23. "No Desire for Empire"
Sure
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:37 PM
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24. Fair news coverage in the mid east, LETS START THAT HERE!!!
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:39 PM
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34. Democrats quite as church mice on 'economy'speech
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KTM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:37 PM
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25. "Because you acted to enable tax relief
this economy is strong, and growing stronger."

:puke:
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:37 PM
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26. god those congresspeople
are the ugliest, most dead-looking people i've ever seen.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:38 PM
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27. Did all of those countries really contribute troops to Iraq
like bush just said?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:43 PM
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70. It's concievable
Mnay of these countries have small numbers of specialist troops involved
They've also been suffering some casualties. I remember Spanish, Bulgarian and Urkraians having been killed.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:38 PM
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28. Did he say "free labor unions in the Middle East?"


What a fucking hypocrite. His cabal seeks to destroy American labor and he "supports" unions there. Now I am gonna puke!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:38 PM
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31. Okay
So we're winning in Iraq and isn't the economy great?

What color is the sky in your world, Bush*?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:38 PM
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32. Talking about Jobless Recovery now ----- more Lies!
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:38 PM
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33. Exports growing
Yea, because you cratered the dollar, you POS.
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:39 PM
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35. cool shot
Economy is strong - half the chamber stood - half sat in silence.

I wish they would show the Dem side of the chamber more.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:41 PM
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52. PBS
Seems to be getting over there a little more
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:39 PM
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36. And now we are "Bankrupt"....lol
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:39 PM
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37. I guess I'll become a bio-technician then
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:39 PM
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38. Our Dems are sitting on their hands for the lies, and we should
thank them for it.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:39 PM
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39. Oh, cool, some really cynical and obvious economic lies
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dpibel Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:39 PM
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40. They screwed up the drug cocktail
Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM by dpibel
Too heavy on the euphorics.

The silly little bastid can hardly keep from laughing.

Or maybe he's just got to the point where even he's saying, "My gawd! I can't believe they're buying this bullshit."
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:39 PM
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41. He's pushing biotech?????????????
This is the most anti-biotech administration in history!
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:41 PM
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55. "New jobs in healthcare and biotech in our new economy"
Translation: emptying bedpans in hospitals, handling hazardous waste in biotech firms, minumum wage, no benefits.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:40 PM
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42. higher standards my ass
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:40 PM
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43. Did all of those countries really contribute troops to Iraq
bush just names off many? Also did you notice the speech began at exactally 9:11?
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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73. Yes I did, and he spent 25 minutes on Iraq and terrarism
.
.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:40 PM
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44. Bill Hicks called people like Bush "suckers of Satan's cock"
Anyone else hear "a giant sucking sound" right now?
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:40 PM
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45. * talking about mastering
anything in education is just too goddam funny if it weren't so tragic. he can't even speak right.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:40 PM
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46. He's taking credit for No Child Left Behind
What an idiot. He is saying that his education "reform" is working.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:43 PM
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66. In the county where I live
the school superintendents hate that law and see it as an unfunded mandate.
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dpibel Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:40 PM
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47. "Testing every child on the fundlementals" nt
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:40 PM
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48. 2 of 3 kids quiet on No Child left behind
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:41 PM
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54. what happened to YOU, chimp ...
I guess you were "left behind." Cuz you sure ain't SPEAKIN' at the third-grade level.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:41 PM
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My relative who was a prosecutor at Nuremburg is spinning in his grave.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:41 PM
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49. No child left behind
No applause from the good guys.
Chiding detractors from his (unfunded) mandate.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:41 PM
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50. Education?
I always have a moment of delicious irony whenever this guy talks about the importance of a good education. It's like watching Keith Richards expound upon the benefits of a healthy lifestyle.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:41 PM
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51. How about asking YOU to read and do math at an ADULT level???
Would that be asking too much, MF?
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:41 PM
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53. Hey fucker, YOU can't read at a third grade level
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM
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64. what's with the joint chiefs?
They don't stand for proposal to support community college?
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM
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57. "measures" cmon W, spit it out
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM
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58. he is a horrible monster
the shots of Cheney are pretty creepy.

Condidrone doesn't look too happy.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM
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59. My step dad sums it up
"I'll watch about a few minutes of the sorry son of a bitch and that's all I can take!"
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:43 PM
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I've made it so far, I'm going to wait it out
This whole thing is a joke. You can tell by his look.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM
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60. He's lying again
No Child Left Behind is shooting schools in the foot by underfunding massively.

And he is defending his policy STILL. I thought that the State of the Union only was to address this last year, not defend old policy.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM
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61. More pell grants... that would actually be nice (lets see it happen 1st)
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KTM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM
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62. "I propose a new eduction initiative
so that I can not fund TWO of them."
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM
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63. I've already lost count of all the lies
Can't wait for the dems to rip him apart on the lies. Hopefully they will!!!!
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:43 PM
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71. major
smirking now
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:43 PM
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65. I propose....
all manner of great things for our schools. But I won't fund them. Gah!!
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freespeechhere Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:43 PM
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67. What's with the community college thing?
The Gropenfuror was going on about that, too.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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74. They are booing!!!!!!!! on tax cuts.....
thanks Dems....
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...Alltogethernow Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:45 PM
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92. I don't think so
... I heard the loudest applause, this is the one area I agree with him. I'm taxed to death now.
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freespeechhere Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:46 PM
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93. Dependence on Foreign OIL???????
He skimmed over that one really quickly.
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:43 PM
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68. Funding for Pell grants and community colleges
Dems start the applause and Repubs realize they should probably stand too - don't want to, but figured they should.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:43 PM
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69. Applause for the "Taxes to expire soon"!!!!
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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80. cheney looks like a robot
The Stepford Vice President.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:43 PM
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72. NCLB is utter bullshit
George, talk about how Texas cooked the books to make it appear that the program works. And how actually, the number of dropouts increased and how you had children who couldn't cut the muster drop out so the stats looked better for you.

I hate you, you pompous fool!~

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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82. Now Tort Reform.
:(
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freespeechhere Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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75. Unless you act...he has the inflection wrong...hear that?
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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76. He wants yet ANOTHER tax cut!!!!!!!
And he's already racked up a record setting deficit, and now he wants the cuts to STAY!!!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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77. NCLB, tests, accountability and education.
I have just one response to Mr. Bush.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:45 PM
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89. Yes, me too
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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Boy was that a low level plug...(if ya dont do it my, american taxes incr"
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:45 PM
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86. DID I HEAR BOOS??? for the "If you dont act on my tax plan..."
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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78. He got Booed 5 times!
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KTM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:45 PM
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90. No he didnt
That was the Reichwing booing the hypothetical outcomes that would occur is we DONT make his tax cuts permanent.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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79. "Job training is important and so is job creation"
"For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent."
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:45 PM
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88. the blackout
you slept through
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KTM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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81. Cheney is smirking like a champ at the tax cut schtick
Testing the "Unless you act" stump speech.. Cheney's got a big turd-eating grin. Somewhere Rove is searching for more Kleenex.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:45 PM
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91. booooooooooooo
leave my social security ALONE, you maniac!
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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83. "tax cuts should be permanent"
"frivolous lawsuits" i'm reaching critical mass. can't take anymore..... am crying here
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:44 PM
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84. How can a tax cut be permanent anyway?
Couldn't Congress reverse them at any time? I know the current cuts have sunset provisions, but isn't "permanent" BS?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:45 PM
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85. looks like if the dems don't help pass bushes tax plan
he'll be giving everyone a tax hike
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:45 PM
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87. Here he goes with the tort reform
Here comes ANWR.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:46 PM
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94. Most of those people standing
and applauding, on both sides, don't look cheerful.

Other than those trying to raise the decibals with shouts, I'm not noticing much in the way of enthusiasm. Repubs seem determined to get him the applause he needs, but there aren't many happy looking people out there.

Maybe it's not about happiness anymore. I guess these days we have the right to pursue fear.

I'm watching the webcast from Dennis' site; it shows the audience watching from a town meeting in NH. They are not standing or applauding; and not smiling, unless you count sarcasm.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:46 PM
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95. He's not one to talk about being a good steward of tax payer's dollars
It sounds like he's giving a campaign stump speech, not a State of the Union.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:47 PM
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96. yeah right, cut defecit, only to be replenished by mars/moon spending?
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