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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:47 PM
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Bill Schneider CNN Post SOTU poll results:Unimpressive.
45% positive reaction lowest in last 6 years,

Are policies going in the right direction?

- Healthcare %43 before %68 after
- Social Security %47 before %59 after
- Right direction overall %60 before %70 after (clinton has 30 pt gains)
- Iraq: confident of acheiving goals? only %29 said yes.

Why? Speech didn't go beyond base.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:49 PM
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1. He was intentionally only speaking to his base
and no further.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:51 PM
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2. Howcome?
He'll need more than them to actually win an election.

You'd think he'd try to speak to issues that everyone else has some interest in, even to say "I've done more for Human Rights than any other President".
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:53 PM
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4. we're early in the race
some pundit said he wasn't really running his campaign tonight...just trying to shore up his position
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:52 PM
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3. Wow! Is there a link to this?
Did Bill Mediawhore Schneider actually report that Bush was unimpressive?
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:54 PM
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6. yeah that fucker had to spit out the words
and then aaron brown was pouting "but why??????"
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:58 PM
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8. Darn! I missed it!!
I would've loved to hear that!!!
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 12:00 AM
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9. Bill Schneider makes me ill
How does one become a "Senior Political Analyst" with his lack of knowledge?

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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 12:18 AM
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15. ..not to mention..
..being a member of a neo-conservative think tank (AEI)!
Can you imagine CNN hiring a member of MoveOn to criticize, judge, and comment on Republicans, while failing to ever mention their MoveOn affiliations? It would NEVER happen. Liberal media!
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:54 PM
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5. That's good news.
Maybe people are waking up finally. Now if the Dems keep at him maybe his numbers will actually go down. I really was bad. At least when Reagan spoke he had a better delivery since he had the acting skills.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:56 PM
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7. I said exactly that earlier this evening
They showed a clip of Reagan in the pre coverage. At least Reagan had some ability to communicate.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 12:01 AM
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10. He's that bad
that Reagan seems better! Geesh Nixon was better. Never thought I'd say that. I want Clinton back!
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 12:02 AM
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11. people who watch SOTU are usually big supporters of Prez
(said CNN) which makes these numbers very interesting.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 12:04 AM
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12. CNN: Bush never said "I understand"
An interesting observation was just made by Stanley Greenberg on CNN's "Newsnight" regarding why the SOTU got the worst response of any in the last 6 years.

Not an exact quote but as close as I could get:

"People understand that the economy is doing better. They're not looking at that. They're worried about their own incomes, their own jobs, and there was no moment where he acknowledged that and said "I understand"..."

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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 12:12 AM
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13. That's probably.....
Because he doesn't give a hoot.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 12:18 AM
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14. ok I watched it
only because my daughter wanted to watch it and I didn't want her to have to watch it alone. My prediction is there will be no bounce for Bush and there may in fact be further erosion in the polls. He sounded defensive and was totally unconvincing - particularly on the WMDs in Iraq. Resorted again to misrepresenting the views of war opponents by saying that "some didn't want to liberate Iraq" - ignoring the fact that he gave no such justification for the war. That I think is finally going to piss off even some of the war supporters who were convinced by the WMD claims. Oh what a tangled web we weave....
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