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Wed Jan-21-04 01:13 PM
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GWB America: GOP "Students" Keep Blacklist Of Liberal Profs |
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Very disturbing. These kids are so brainwashed they log "compaints" against hearing any viewpoint other than "conservative." http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/01/21/students.website.ap/index.htmlStop the insanity...regime change 2004!
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:16 PM
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1. Just acting like their spirtual antecedents, the Nazis |
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Actually, they are more like Young Soviets for the moment.
At least they haven;t gotten violent yet and we aren;t sdeeing these professors face down, dead in the mud.
I wouldn't make a bet on what will be in the Empire in 2050, though.
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Bill McBlueState
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:19 PM
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It just cracks me up when these right-wingers start suggesting that colleges need to hire conservative profressors to ensure diversity on campus.
But they don't like affirmative action. :shrug:
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:33 PM
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6. Good point about affirmative action |
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Hypocrites. When did the inmates start running the asylum?
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Wed Jan-21-04 08:06 PM
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The Left better start articulating the difference between needless discrimination and good judgement... and we better do it well!
Some kinds of discrimination are unacceptable because it doesn't determine the character of the individual or institution (skin color, gender, etc.). Ideas do NOT fall into this category; if many ideas associated with these students' perception of "conservative" are wrong or unsupported or antisocial, then colleges should not be paying them lip service.
Should divinity schools recruit fundamentalists for the sake of some 'diversity' ploy? And if these blacklisting students really believe in diversity (unlikely), doesn't that make them sincere but also deluded and self-defeating?
Yes, we "love" diversity. Lets hire some anti-diversity instructors to promote diversity on campus.
BS all the way.
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:30 PM
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if bush wins and they re-instate the draft, we won't have to worry about the little bastards. and imagine the fury with which they'd attack all those unwashed people they consider inferior to themselves.
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:31 PM
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4. This is actually set up by nutball Daniel Pipes |
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with his campus-watch.org. Student can turn in their professors. kucinich.usdeanforamerica.comclark04.comsharpton2004.orgTom DeLay:"I challenge anyone to live on my salary" <$158,000 a year>
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The Backlash Cometh
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:32 PM
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5. Was it 1984 where family members and neighbors turned each other in? |
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These young conservatives should go to private school if they want their education customized by conservative idealoques. Public School is for diverse ideas.
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:33 PM
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7. Agreed about college choice |
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NO ONE FORCES YOU TO GO TO A CERTAIN COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:34 PM
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We can counter that campaign. We work best in political combat. Let them don brown shirts and expose themselves for what they are.
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:35 PM
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Seems like this is just another expression of First Amendment rights. They might be all stupid comments, but they have every right to make them.
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Wed Jan-21-04 02:01 PM
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11. Agreed! A great post. I'm glad I joined DU! |
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The College Democrats can do the same thing.
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Wed Jan-21-04 07:21 PM
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I guess we can expect to see you around for a long time ...
But Muddleoftheroad's comment wasn't quite so good.
"They might be all stupid comments, but they have every right to make them."
I mean ... duh.
Of course these vicious morons are free to say anything they want.
DID ANYBODY SAY THEY WERE NOT, OR THEY SHOULD NOT BE?
So exactly what's the point of saying they are? (Surely not to imply that anyone said they weren't, or shouldn't be ...)
Let alone applauding when someone else says it ...
Surely no one is suggesting that anyone else is not, or should not be, free to call them vicious morons when they utter vile stupidities. Eh?
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Wed Jan-21-04 07:36 PM
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Just in the few posts in this thread, they've been called morons, hypocrites and Nazis. That's not exactly an endorsement of their First Amendment rights to express their views.
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Wed Jan-21-04 07:44 PM
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19. Saying they're stupid |
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for the things they say isn't saying they can't say them.
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Wed Jan-21-04 07:47 PM
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Brownshirts, bastards, etc. and urging the government to draft them is trending down that line.
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Wed Jan-21-04 07:52 PM
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21. I don't see how. edited |
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Edited on Wed Jan-21-04 07:56 PM by Pithlet
as long as they aren't adding "and they shouldn't be allowed to say it". I don't see how commenting on one's speech and equating it with something bad=denying free speech.
And about the draft: I didn't see where anyone was advocating that. They were pointing out that if the people they side with get their way, these studnets may end up getting drafted. I think they were being ironic.
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Wed Jan-21-04 08:06 PM
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23. I'm unceasingly amazed at the appropriateness of some names |
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"Muddled" couldn't say it better, one might think.
Just in the few posts in this thread, they've been called morons, hypocrites and Nazis. That's not exactly an endorsement of their First Amendment rights to express their views.
Ya think?
Did you actually SEE someone SAYING that they should be PREVENTED from exercising their First Amendment rights?
Who asked for an endorsement of their right to express their views? Why would the issue of endorsement of someone's right to express his/her views be expected to come up in a discussion of the niceness or nastiness, smartness or dumbness, or any other aspect, of anyone's views??
A lot of people don't go around stating the obvious. "They have a First Amendment right to express their views, but they're vicious morons." Me, I'd just say "They're vicious morons", and ASSUME that everybody else KNEW they had a First Amendment right to express their views, for dawg's sake.
Of course, we all know what Voltaire said.
"Je désapprouve ce que vous dites, mais je défendrai jusqu'à la mort votre droit de le dire."
I really don't think that anyone needs to vow to defend to the death someone's right to say something every time s/he disagrees with it. Do you?
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Wed Jan-21-04 08:46 PM
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29. Your comment was muddled, not mine |
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The tone of this thread IS heading down the path saying such views should NOT be allowed. That is why I reminded people that we need to protect those views and, even more, encourage people to think for themselves.
No one ASKED for an endorsement of their right to express their views. Last time I checked, I didn't need your OK to speak my mind.
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Wed Jan-21-04 07:32 PM
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And I would say they have equal right to do so, I'd just likely agree with them more.
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Wed Jan-21-04 02:13 PM
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13. Not about the First Amendment... |
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Seems like this is just another expression of First Amendment rights. They might be all stupid comments, but they have every right to make them.
All of the students paid dearly for every year they are in college. Part of the fees that they pay includes a "program fee" that is used to bring everyone from prominent speakers to bands to campus. The students are asking the college to be a good steward of their money by refusing to sit still while that money is spent bringing the likes of Daniel Pipes or David Horowitz to campus. Surprised that conservative Republicans can't understand that.
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Wed Jan-21-04 07:35 PM
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Should be from both the left and the right and the audience should be made to behave during their talks. (Disruptions destroy the idea of diverse views.)
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:48 PM
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"Accuracy in Acedemia" has been around for at least 20 years.
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Wed Jan-21-04 02:03 PM
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12. Nope. Nothing like Hitler. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-21-04 02:06 PM by Cat Atomic
SO STOP SAYING THAT!
:eyes:
I wonder how anxious these young puglets will be to hunt down liberals when their illustrious Republican leader starts up the draft.
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Wed Jan-21-04 06:48 PM
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14. hmmm..wonder what kind of poison strings will be attached to bush*s $250 |
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million to community colleges for job training/re-training?
BEWARE neocons bearing gifts
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Wed Jan-21-04 08:21 PM
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I'm suprised this bothers you. Wouldn't you do the same? If you were convinced that some of your professors were using your tuition dollars to advance a conservative agenda I think you'd be pissed.
I hate to play the devil's advocate here, but I don't blame these kids one bit. Political discourse has its place.
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Wed Jan-21-04 08:23 PM
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25. Hope they spell my name correctly. That would get me tenure, here!! |
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Wed Jan-21-04 08:24 PM
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26. Has it ever occured to them that the smartest people tend to be liberals? |
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Wed Jan-21-04 08:30 PM
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Its disturn=bing what the likes of Rush has done to this country. Couldnt he be charged with treason for the hatespew he has promoted for years. Who would have thought a fat guy spewing halftruths and generalizations could have caused so much hate?
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Wed Jan-21-04 08:35 PM
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It could be argued that any teaching of economics is right wing. Capitalism is a conservative thing so anyone who teaches it is a right winger/
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