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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:13 PM
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McCain is ripping Bush now on CSPAN
"Incumbent Protection Act of 2004", reffering to Spending Bill
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:14 PM
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1. more info...
please :)
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:14 PM
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2. Never thought I'd say this, but -
Go McCain!

Any chance he may challenge the Dim Son?
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joycep Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:14 PM
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3. McCain sure has that right
n/t
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:16 PM
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5. Good...I was wondering if I was the only person watching CSPAN
And listening to Rush and reading news on line all at once........more coffee, more coffeeeeee
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:21 PM
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6. Im listening to flush too
and tea. Unfortality I cant watch CSPAN because I live in Holland.

kucinich.us

deanforamerica.com
clark04.com
sharpton2004.org

Tom DeLay:"I challenge anyone to live on my salary" <$158,000 a year>
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:08 PM
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28. Tom DeLay:"I challenge anyone to live on my salary" <$158,000 a year>
Hey Tom,

Send it over--I'll give it a shot, you a$$hole.

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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:32 PM
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40. sign me up too
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:41 PM
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33. here is live video on the web
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:15 PM
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4. Thanks for the tip!
This is good stuff
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:25 PM
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7. I wish he would run against Bush again.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:27 PM
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8. Be careful siding with McCain
The guy is an ultraconservative nut case. His position might be anti-bush, however it is anti-bush because it is so extreme right wing.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:30 PM
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13. I doubt anyone herer would vote for McCain-- just like to see him take on
the shrub and shake up the Repugs.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:33 PM
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14. Good. Bush needs to be destroyed by his own.
For the good of the nation.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:43 PM
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17. In the end, he always sides against us.

His 'straight talk' is just another pile of bullshit.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:34 PM
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30. No, it isn't bullshit. It's straight talk from a Goldwater Republican.
In that sense, he's always starting from a RADICALLY different vantage point than anyone who regularly posts on these boards.

While I do find many of his views to be just plain nuts (like on the use of military force, for instance), I do admire him for pointing out the hypocrisy within the ranks of his own party, and for championing noble causes like campaign finance reform.
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:49 PM
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20. That's ok
He is right wing, but he's the real thing and that's a big difference between him and the crooks in charge of his party.
Real right wingers are for fiscal responsibility and individual rights.
We may disagree on many issues, but there is common ground.
I have no common ground with those who would loot and pillage my country.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:53 PM
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21. fiscal responsibility and individual rights
Yeah, the individual's right to responsible poverty.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:54 PM
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22. The right hates him too... I love it!
It's pretty obvious that * is being criticized by the right side of his party over his out of control spending.

I doubt if these right wingers will vote democratic, but they may just stay home in November... or vote Libertarian in protest.

hee hee hee...
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:58 PM
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23. Oh pleaseeee!
None of the nut cases are going to shift. This is all just a good natured gripe fest that bush isn't right wing enough, and should come down harder on the "entitlements" - Social Security and Medicare.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:50 PM
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35. Only on some issues
I agree with him on public funding for election campaigns.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:31 PM
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39. At least he has brains
And he wouldn't have attacked Iraq, he's seen the effects of war first hand. Not like that AWOL bastard who's playing army with other people's sons and daughters.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:27 PM
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9. He's doing a terrific job! (nt)
.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:28 PM
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10. He's on fire! n/t
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:29 PM
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11. he's spreading his fire to lots of groups...Alaska took a lot of hits..
the media is taking lots of hits...hes mad as hell.
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:29 PM
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12. McCain wants to revisit a lot of things not on the Dems' agenda
McCain wants all the pork out of this omnibus bill. The Dems would be happy putting back the country-of-origin beef labeling requirement, the prohibition of the anti-overtime Labor Dept. rules; and rolling back the loosening of cross-ownership of media outlets.

To his credit, McCain is attacking that last issue. I'm not sure that his agenda meshes with the Dems' otherwise though.

My point is that I am not sure if there is enough cohesiveness to repair the damage in this bill before enough Dems give up and vote for it.

I was very unhappy that my senator Patty Murray voted for cloture yesterday.

s_m

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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:35 PM
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15. bill will pass
JM has conceeded that the bill will pass.

I am glad he has come around on the media comglomeration issue.
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:37 PM
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16. big words
esoteric???....Chimp just tuned out if he was ever watching.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:44 PM
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18. Chimpy on Esso-terraic
"I knew them A-rab terraist were goin' to start targeting the oil companies, I knew it! And them dern backward heathens don't even know that Esso is now Exxon!"
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 02:48 PM
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19. How about the price fixing for the crab industry for Alaska...ALL crab
catches would have to be sold to one processor in Alaska. Wonder who wrote that one.
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:01 PM
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24. I don't know if McCain is that Ultra Conservative
McCain and Lieberman tried to get a bill passed to limit greenhouse gase emmissions this past session. I disagree with McCain on a lot of issues but I don't fully agree with any politicians on all the issues. I'd rather have more Republicans like McCain than the Repukes like Tom Delay, Santorum, and Hatch.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:36 PM
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31. No, he IS ultra-conservative. But he's also pretty honest.
That's the main difference between McCain and the likes of which you mentioned above. DeLay, Sanctimonium and Hatch aren't "conservative" -- they're reactionary. McCain IS ultra-conservative -- but in the sense of Barry Goldwater ultra-conservative.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:47 PM
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34. True
We have to remember how the Fright Wing has framed things the last 25-30 years... Goldwater is now seen as fairly moderate when he was seen as almost laughably far right 40 years ago. 40 years ago, Bill Clinton (smaller gov't, cutting back welfare, free trade, etc) would have been a moderate Republican or a conservative Democrat, but was framed as a liberal, pot smoking, draft dodging, womanizing hippy.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:01 PM
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25. And isn't Bush on his way to Arizona today?
After he leaves Ohio? Perhaps he feels that those two states are not yet in his column....
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:04 PM
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26. That's funny
You go, McCain. :yourock:
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Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:05 PM
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27. An angry republican!
"Mr. President, if I sound like I'm angry, it's because I am and because my constituents are angry."
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:16 PM
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29. There's the key to McCain's anger
his constituents are angry. That means the people who voted for him are giving him an earful. That is the only thing that makes these guys pay attention.

Now a days, everything is decided in real time, in the court of public opinion. Looks like Bu$hCo is about to implode. I hope they go down as nice and neat, as the WTC.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:59 PM
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36. McCain is too mad to be President.

Where have I heard this type of thing before?

Was it in SC in 2000?
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Bush loves Jiang Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:37 PM
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32. I think I might have to break the Prime Directive...
I'm going to support someone with an abyssmal ACLU record.

GO McCAIN!!!!!
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DemLikr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:26 PM
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37. When it matters, McCain always has his tongue firmly in ShrubCo's ass
he gets no points from me.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:27 PM
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38. Beautifu,l fucking beautiful
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:55 PM
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41. He may be ripping him now but I'll bet he'll vote for the bastard.
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