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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:41 AM
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Poppy and "Boys" nabbed with drugs according to FBI agent.
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 02:47 AM by 9215
found the piece on Bush brothers and Poppy being nabbed with drugs by an FBI agent in a Florida hotel room. The author of the book that cites this case, Rodney Stich, was WWII "Liberator" pilot who later worked as an FAA investigator. His life has been a virtual hell since he caught on to CIA drug smuggling and other crimes. His website has attracted many whistleblowers.
Defrauding America documents most of what it claims. Along with his own personal experiences in the FAA discovering horrendous corruption Stich investigates leads he recieves from others and then reports them in his books with sources, but these sources are not always extensive enough to cover all that he says.


When you go to the following site do a word search for 'Novinger'--that is the FBI agent who nabbed the Bushies.

http://www.joelskousen.com/World/domback.html


Anybody know any more about this?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:08 AM
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1. Kick n/t
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:51 AM
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2. The same guy also says the CIA used the Mossad
to assasinate JFK Jr. with a bomb in the tail of his airplane. Does anyone know about this?
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:32 PM
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12. Got a link on that?


In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/f/franklind136346.html

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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:45 PM
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13. .
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:08 PM
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14. How convenient
I hadn't been to the website in awhile and forgot about this part.

Thanks
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:01 AM
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3. Novinger was threatened, family members were killed and
she was forced to resign.

Here's a passage from "Defrauding America":

"Darlene Novinger said to me that she discovered during an FBI investigation that George Bush and two of his sons were using drugs and prostitutes in a Florida hotel while Bush was vice president. She said that when she reported these findings to her FBI supervisors they warned her not to reveal what she had discovered. Novinger had been requested to infiltrate drug trafficking operations in South America and the United States. She was pressured to quit her FBI position; her husband was beaten to death; and four hours after she appeared on a July 1993 talkshow describing her findings (after she was warned not to appear), her father mysteriously died. A dead white canary was left on his grave as a warning to her. After receiving death threats she went into hiding, from where she occasionally appeared as guest on talk shows, and called me from undisclosed locations." - page 469

More details from later in the book:

Novinger had been an investigator with the Federal Crime Task Force, and then was recruited by the FBI to work in an undercover capacity.

She worked on Operation Nimbus, investigating large-scale drug smuggling on the Eastern seaboard. The investigation revealed the narcotic operation of a powerful Lebanese family living in Miami and Jamaica, which was also tied to the Lebanese fascist Phalange. Family's name is Smatt, headed by William Smatt. And Novinger said the Smatt operation implicated VP Bush and son Jeb.

After submitting her report, orders came to cease the investigation and destroy all reports. She says someone in the FBI's Miami office leaked to the Smatt group that she had penetrated the operation.

Before Operation Nimbus was shut down, veteran US Customs investigator Joe Price filed corroborating reports implicating Bush. After he filed in Sept 1983, FBI agents arrested him on a narcotics trafficking charge.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:05 AM
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5. Those Busheviks don't f*ck around, do they
Mel Carnahan, Paul Wellstone, and Cliff Baxter could tell you that but they're all dead.

A brief look into the underbelly of the Beast that is the Imperial Family of Amerika.

Unsurprising it would look a lot like other Imperial Families throughout history...
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:10 AM
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6. Interesting that even here, there's a fascist connection,
with the drug smuggling linked to the Lebanese Phalange.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 12:09 PM
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9. And official complicity in Lebanese drug smuggling in the early 80s
figures in the alternative history of the bombing of Pan Am 103:

There is one more theory, more convoluted and startling than these, that brings Israel, the CIA and US Military intelligence, or the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA), into the frame.

An internal investigation by Pan Am is believed to have found that the bomb planted on Flight 103 was put on the plane during a stop-over in Frankfurt, and not in Malta by the Libyan suspects, as alleged by the prosecution in the trial.

The Pan Am report is believed to have concluded that the bomb was not aimed at the killing of Americans in general, but was targeted specifically to kill a small band of DIA operatives that had uncovered a drugs ring run by a "rogue" CIA unit in Lebanon.

The CIA unit is alleged to have been selling drugs to raise funds to buy the freedom of six US hostages held by Hezbollah in Lebanon at the time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/777974.stm

This is the subject of the book Trail of the Octopus.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:02 AM
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4. HMmmmmm
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:14 AM
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7. The Smatt Family
Has a certain ring to it.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:43 AM
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8. Darlene Novinger died 23 Jan. 2003
I was poking around some more and found this.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/armageddon-or-newage/message/26331



DARLENE NOVINGER, FBI WHISTLE BLOWER, DEAD.
Posted By: Rayelan
Date: Monday, 27 January 2003, 10:07 a.m.

Darlene Novinger Former FBI operative Died Thursday, January 23rd, 2003

Novinger was known to hold sensitive information on the Clinton and Bush I
administration's drug operations.

Her husband murdered March 1987 when she went public with initial reports.

Her father died July 8, 1993 four hours after Darlene was a guest on the
Tom Valentine show.

Novinger died after a long bout with cancer.

Darlene Novinger, contract agent for the FBI, suffered retaliation after
reporting discussions by government protected drug smuggler who described
contacts with Vice President George Bush and his son, Jeb Bush.

http://www.defraudingamerica.com/heroes_and_martyrs.html

"Darlene Novinger, an ex FBI informant... uncovered how the Bush family is
deeply involved in drug trafficking and money laundering in the state of
Florida.She received many death threats. She wanted to continue the
investigation that her superiors told her to stop. Her husband was
murdered and her father was poisoned because she dared to make public such
accusations against the Bush family in an interview issued by a radio program.

After and before the killings, she got phone calls that reminded her the
cruel destiny she had to face: to lose these two loved members of her
family was the price she had to pay to expose the dirty dealings of the
Bush family, and she was really going to pay, she was told by phone."

http://www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol20/articles/lucy.html

In Rodney Stich's book DEFRAUDING AMERICA we find the best overall
compendium of the workings of the dark side of government. In it and his
new book, DRUGGING AMERICA, there are pages of CIA and DEA whistleblower
testimony documenting George Bush, involvement in CIA drug trafficking
operations as CIA chief, VP and President. For example, one former federal
agent, Darlene Novinger, told Stich that "she discovered during an FBI
investigation that Vice President George Bush and two of his sons were
using drugs and prostitutes in a Florida hotel room while he was Vice
President.

Stich recently queried Novinger about which sons were involved, and
Novinger indicated that she did not remember George jr being involved in
this particular drug-sex incident. But the fact that the father was
proportedly involved in this corruption of his sons is potentially
damaging to the family conservative reputation.

http://www.joelskousen.com/World/domback.html

Rodney Stich, in his 1994 edition of Defrauding America

http://www.defraudingamerica.com/ writes that Novinger was a "former FBI
operative, (who) reportedly discovered during an FBI investigation that Vice
President George Bush and two of his sons were using drugs and prostitutes in
a Florida hotel while Bush was vice president."

"She reported her findings to FBI supervisors and then (was) warned not to
repeat what she had discovered," continues Stich.

"Novinger had been requested to infiltrate drug trafficking operations in
South America and the United States. She was pressured to quit her FBI
position; her husband was beaten to death; and four hours after she
appeared on a July 1993 talk show describing her findings (after she was
warned not to appear), her father mysteriously died. A dead white canary
was left on his grave as a warning to her. After receiving death threats
she went into hiding, from where she occasionally appeared as a guest on
talk shows and called from undisclosed locations."

Presumably, the long arm of the Bush crime family syndicate has kept her
in hiding ever since.

According to a later 1998 edition of Defrauding America, Novinger was a
former investigator for the Federal Crime Task Force working with the FBI
in an unofficial capacity. She was recruited as an undercover operative,
and she had the authority to investigate and report criminal activities,
but not the power to arrest. She was not paid a salary, either, but
received periodic payments based upon assets seized or the value
government agents placed upon her information.

Her success led her to be assigned to Atlanta where she was involved with
"an investigation that revealed a large drug operation involving a
powerful Lebanese drug trafficking family living in luxury in Miami and
Jamaica," writes Stich. "It was called Operation Nimbus and it involved
the Smatt family, headed by William Smatt, related to the the Lebanese
Phlangee group."

Most importantly, Novinger said that "the investigations showed that the
drug trafficking operation involving the Smatt group also implicated Vice
President George Bush and his son Jeb."

There is, after all a formidable strategic importance in having positioned
the two Bush Boys, Jeb and George Jr., as governors of the two states
-Florida and Texas-which coincidentally happen to be the primary drug
trafficking portals into the country.

Stich writes that "the irony of this discovery was that George Bush was
the head of the South Florida Task Force. The investigation also
discovered that Bush was being politically corrupted and blackmailed by
drug traffickers who knew of the vice president's involvement in these
criminal activities."

Novinger said that after submitting the report to the FBI concerning
Bush's involvement, orders came from Washington to stop the entire
investigation and destroy all reports.

Stich adds an additional corroboration of Bush crime family drug
trafficking involvement. "Before Operation Nimbus was shut down,
veteran U.S. Customs investigator Joe Price, had filed similar reports
involving high level drug trafficking, including the George Bush
involvement," writes Stich. "After Price had filed his report in September
1983 concerning Bush's involvement in drugs, supporting Darlene"s reports,
FBI arrested Price on false narcotics trafficking charges."

Note to all U.S. Federal employees: report a crime, go to jail.

http://syninfo.com/ian/PRIVATE/2002/12/30/2002123020440769.html
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:12 PM
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15. And another one
bites the dust.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 12:14 PM
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10. Stories like this do not even phase me anymore.
These people are beyond verbal description
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:25 PM
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11. And as many stories as we learn about their crimes,
does CNN touch them? No, instead it treats Americans to another broadcast of "Poppy the war hero". And even though the CIA's complicity in the drug trade is a longstanding and established fact, it's met with such silence by the US mainstream media it would be easy to think it an urban legend.

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