IMHO, Kerry is the one Bush wants to run against...

[SimpleMan]

It seems pretty obvious over the last few days that Kerry is the one Rove has chosen to run against Bush, and is consequently the media's sweetheart . I have honestly heard nothing negative about the man...even on FAUX. They have beat Dean down so far that I have to wonder if he will ever come back to life. And they are doing the same to Clark. So far, they are leaving Edwards alone, since they don't think he'll really make it anyway. Besides, if he does, he will be easier than Kerry to beat.

The fact is, Kerry doesn't have a chance in the deep south. I live here, and I hear the things that they are already saying about him. "Another Massachusettes liberal," "the French looking Kerry" (whatever that means), and "his voting record is just like Teddy Kennedy" (which is a bad thing here). I'm afraid that the masses in New Hampshire aren't considering this fact enough.

Don't get me wrong, I would be happy with almost any of them as president (except Lieberman), but Clark is the ONLY one that is immune to all of the GOP criticism.

Just my 2¢

[gristy]

1. IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO

Bush, Cheney, or Rove want to run against. It is irrelevant. It's not worth 2 seconds of your time thinking about. Just drop it.

[Southsideirish]

4. Oh, ok - if you say so! (n/t)

[Pegleg Thd]

2. What if

we have a Kerry/Clark ticket to go against bushit-boy in November?

[Southsideirish]

3. 100% agree - he had been anointed as the "chosen" Dem.

That's why he is not getting the super scrutiny that Dean (and now Clark) received. Drudge had a photo of him this afternoon that was positively reverent and presidential. I smell a big Rovian rat.

[lancdem]

6. He will be attacked

All the Dems will be.

[Old and In the Way]

25. LOL, you give Karl way too much credit.

500,000 more people were smart enough to choose Al over Dimson the 1st time. WE'LL be choosing the candidate WE want to run against George. Karl will just have to work with Diebold if he wants to assure George the Lesser another "term".

[Lorien]

26. My feeling too

and the super scrutiny WILL come, after the nomination (it'll make what they did to Gore look like a picnic)!

[LibDemAlways]

5. You had better believe that Rove wants Kerry.

It'll be all lovey dovey during primary season, and then, if (and I think it's a huge if) Kerry gets the nod,expect to see him pulverized as a Mass. liberal who betrayed his fellow soldiers during Vietnam. He won't know what hit him.

I am with Michael Moore. This election is all about expedience. Getting rid of the chimp is job 1. Only Wes Clark can do it. That's why Rove has him polling so low, and creating a bogus "groundswell" for Kerry. He wants Clark out - and the sooner the better.

This may sound ridiculous, but it wouldn't surprise me if Rove paid people to register at the last minute and support Kerry and Edwards in Iowa. After they trashed Dean, they had to make sure Kerry had the "big mo" going into New Hampshire.

[shooga]

28. how can Clark do it ...

... when he barely survived the debate last nite?

what happens when OxyRush and Kut-throat-Karl get at him??



http://www.fudgereport.net

[lancdem]

7. OK, but would those people support any Dem?

It sounds like they support Bush. BTW, I'm not saying he'll do well in the South, but these aren't the kind of voters we'll win anyway.

[SimpleMan]

10. That's crazy...

_________

"It sounds like they support Bush. BTW, I'm not saying he'll do well in the South, but these aren't the kind of voters we'll win anyway."
_________


That is not true at all. People are getting sick of Bush...even many of the repugs. These people could (from their perspective) hold their noses and vote for a Dem...if that Dem was a 4 Star General. Believe me.

[Cat Atomic]

8. They also thought Iraq would be a "cakewalk".

I wouldn't put too much stock in the Bush team's ability to choose fights.

[gristy]

15. That's right. (n/t).

[FloridaPat]

9. Don't forget - the top Democrats don't want a lot of issues

raised either. They are happy with the status quo and Dean, Kucinich, and probably Clark will mess up their cozy seat in the pecking order. It's time for total revolt in this country - if we can pull the citizens away from Survivor long enough to find out what's going and a vote.

[nibbana]

11. Seeing Bush next to a real war hero....priceless

"The fact is, Kerry doesn't have a chance in the deep south."
And Dean does?

If there is no one that can beat Bush, as many say, then I will have to settle for the oppotunity to see Kerry stand next to Bush and call him out for dodging the draft and then going AWOL.

These two men defined themselves in the 60's and it is now time for Bush to face a real veteran. Kerry's war experiences are the real deal, not some phoney ass swagger developed to impress little people..

[peacetalksforall]

12. Kerry - Bush?

Who will be the Skull and who the Bones?

Blunt? Yes. It ought to be.

We don't need anymore secret societies and secret governments in this country.

Of the people, for the people, by the people?

Or? Of secret societies, for secret societies, by secret societies.

I've had it with Skull & Bones. No to Kerry, despite Vietnam, protesting Vietnam, and investigating BCCI.

We don't have to have another S&B member representing us.

[shooga]

21. ditto ... stick with ..

.. the bones we already know.







http://www.fudgereport.net

[SadEagle]

13. IMHO, Bush wants to run unopposed.

Anyone disagree?

[Cocoa]

14. I've heard tons of negatives about Kerry

and they've been ignoring him as well, though it's harder now.

[leesa]

16. None of them are immune. But Kerry is fairly weak and indecisive

They will rip him to shreds because he lacks consistency. If he is chosen we will have to fight this like we would the dirty dealing they would give to any and all of them. I DO think they are afraid of Dean because he isn't as likely to cave in to them. His response to the bogus media circus will be telling.

[Cocoa]

20. that's one of the media's lines against him

But I think it's completely false.

Look at how he retooled his campaign less than two months ago. People were calling it "desperate" at the time in the media, all but writing him off. But he was totally solid about it.

I'm not hearing anyone in the media talking about that, no one's giving him credit for what he did with his campaign.

And I think he's totally consistent on Iraq, despite the media calling him a waffler. They keep saying he hasn't explained his vote, he just ignores them and keeps explaining it.

[truth2power]

17. The media frenzy over what should be a non-issue

(Screemin' Dean), has convinced me that the word went out that something needed to be done about Dean. The media whores got their marching orders.

Anyone who doubts this should have seen back-to-back Diane Sawyer last night. First on Frontline - a clip of an earlier interview with the boy-king, where Ms. Sawyer was struck dumb by his snotty, condescending response to her question about WMDs.

Immediatley after, I switched to 20/20 to see her drill the Deans unmercifully.

Yep, they were told to take him down. My $.02.

[maggrwaggr]

18. so where's that video of him pretending to smoke the doob?

Saw that before Iowa, now they seem to ignore it.

???

[JohnOneillsMemory]

19. Where is the footage from the BBC of Bush* pumping his fist "FEELS GOOD!"

[eyeswideopened]

22. 10-4 to that

They know Bush can beat Kerry or maybe Edwards. They are worried about Dean and more so Clark. I think alot of Americans may feel we need a General to get us out of this war mess we are in. It's just so sad that the Media is so blatantly biased and ignorant to the intelligence of American people. I believe that this game they are playing will backfire. Americans have changed since 911 and since their sons and daughters have died or been away so long in this Bush war. They are skeptical of the media and will see through this mess. I am from Texas and even alot of die hard Republicans that I talk to agree we need a change.

I hope for Dean or Clark in the end.

[arewethereyet]

23. you're right about Kerry

Dean self destructed. Clark is also self destructing but is at least as beatable as Dean. If you think Clark has soe sort of force field around him you are mistaken.

Kerry is the proverbial Mass liberal.

Edwards is a real problem so I think that they'll be pulling for Kerry.

[Devlzown]

24. I live in the Deep South, too, and Kerry has

the same chance here as any other Dem candidate, and that is virtually no chance at all. There are a couple of states we should try to win, like Louisiana and Arkansas, but most of the South is not going to vote for a Dem in this election no matter who we pick as our nominee. As far as I'm concerned, Kerry's as good as any of the others.

[mitchum]

27. This doesn't belong here. Not because it's bullshit (although it is)...

but because this belongs in GD Primary

[leftofthedial]

29. given the hundredsof millions of dollars

the GOPNAC Cabal have raised and their stranglehold on the media, we undoubtedly will get pretty much whomever the Bushies pick out of the Democratic pack.

We already can see that they fear Kucinich and now Dean.

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