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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:56 PM
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You guys I'm feeling better and better about this election
Bush's approval rating is at 50% (according to Newsweek) and 53% (according to FOX).

Kerry is now leading Bush head to head.

This after one stinking caucus. I always thought that when the attention shifted to the Democrats with the primaries and when the Democrats finally rallied behind one of its candidates that our numbers would improve.

But I didn't expect it to happen this soon.

Kerry has only a 73% approval rating among Democrats (expect that number to rise if he wins it all).

That means we Democrats can reasonably expect to gain another 4 to 5% in polls when the Democratic party falls in line behind their candidate. That means Kerry (or whoever else) can be leading by as much as 8 to 10% come March. That's not even including any Republican or Independent converts.

I feel so good about this that I can't tell you. I feel it in my bones. We're going to win this thing.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:01 PM
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1. Me too, jeter, me too!
:)
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:01 PM
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2. No
bu$h's approval rating doesn't mean squat till he and his fellow criminals are out of the White House and in prison.
You seem to think the elections will be on the up and up - that is assuming they are not set aside in the interest of Martial law because of a "terrorist attract".
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:17 PM
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9. I have read that on several occasions here on DU
and I do not think it can be dismissed as hysteria. In view of how this dishonorable, liar of a man actually stole the election and had no consideration or sense of the people's vote , I think quite strongly there is NOTHING he would not do to stay in power. He is capable of doing exactly that which you have described and his record shows it. He WILL do it if he perceives he is losing,especially if he racks up his 2 hundred million dollar "re-election" treasury. All those people that need to be "repaid" Hell

faking a terrorist attack and coming on like the warrior saviour is not something he would abhor--he would, in fact, play that role gladly nad instigate Maritial Law without batting an eyelid. He is just that stupid and just that eager to be a dictator fascist.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 07:10 PM
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18. A very high stakes game indeed.
If there is evidence that Bush allowed the 9/11 attack to occur, that would make it a treasonable action and a capital offense. Framed in this way, should we be surprised with any action this administration might consider to avoid their day of reckoning? I wouldn't be.

I certainly now believe that AQ directly or indirectly works to support the goals and objectives of this administration. This administration's intervention to allow AQ/Pakistani terrorists safe passage out of Afghanistan sealed my belief (ref. "Escape From Afghanistan essay @ www.cooperativeresearch.org)

An interesting way to diffuse this scenario would be a high profile campaign that educates the public about the possibility and the motivation behind it. Chances are it won't happen...if the possibility is exposed and understood.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:44 PM
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27. So why Kerry?
How is electing Kerry going to help expose the 9-11 coverup? I just don't see it. If you know something I don't plz fill me in.
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virgdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:20 PM
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11. This is what has me worried -
in a perfect world, I would expect to trounce the Pukes in the fall, but I expect an "October Surprise" - either a terrorist attack or bio-terror attack. Especially if their poll numbers for * are not good. By hook or by crook, they will steal this election too. I wish I were more optimistic, but I'm a realist, and I know what we are up against.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:01 PM
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3. The tide is turning.
Americans are now starting to understand how Bush mislead the American people.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:02 PM
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4. I'm sure we will win
But what if they steal it again? What can we do? :scared: :scared: :scared:
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FreeperSlayer Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:06 PM
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5. Get these bastards out!
Jail, prison, home cuffed braceleted probation watched supervised sentence...whatever. I want these mf'ers OUT!
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:06 PM
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6. My biggest fear
Is that Americans have shown that they are easily manipulated by the media and by the GOP talking points. Kerry has taken everyone - even the GOP - by surprise. Once they get their FOX attack dogs after him, all bets are off. Start hearing people parrot these talking points. This will happen to whomever is the front runner/nominee. We'll just have to see.

But - I am feeling a little better anyway.

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lucidmadman Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:09 PM
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7. Yeah...me too...
...all else set aside (voting fraud, etc.) I think 'we' will have the WH back. I know the 'chattering class' likes to paint the potential candidates as strange, but whats stranger than Dubya? He's the strangest thing I've ever seen in the WH. Dan Quayle must be pissed about 2000. He must wonder 'wasn't I stupid enough?'
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:55 PM
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15. Good one!
Dan Quayle must be pissed about 2000. He must wonder 'wasn't I stupid enough?'
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lucidmadman Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 07:27 PM
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20. Thanks...
I mean really...Quayle's Dad owns almost every newspaper in Indiana and, as Letterman put it, "he spent the Viet Nam war on 24 hour Blob watch or else deciding Coke or Pepsi in the officer's lounge". He must've wondered why he didn't measure up. He had to have been way more pissed than Gore. Obviously...
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:15 PM
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25. In "American Dynasty," Kevin Phillips speculates that Bush Jr. might have
gotten jealous when they were putting up Quayle as the new "star" when they chose him for vp. Bush probably thought Dan was as stupid as he was and not nearly as good of a con artist.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:13 PM
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8. Howard Dean's words were distorted by the media again and again
Howard Dean's words were distorted by the media again and again until people were turned off to Dean, and the media will do the same thing to John Kerry.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:28 PM
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13. They're going to take them all
down one by one.. :-(
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Abigail147 Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:46 AM
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23. That's what I'm saying too.
And you don't think the health question about his prostrate surgery for cancer is going to come-up again. Yeah, right.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:53 PM
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28. Yes they will.
I will be here saying I told you so. It is our folly that we allowed the puke media to choose our candidate.
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SalParadise Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:19 PM
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10. how many times in the last three months has a poll...
like this swung the other way?

We've got a LONG way to go till November. There's no point in any optimism until bush is out of office.

(I look for bush declaring a police state well before then anyway.)

;)
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:25 PM
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12. But but but.... they have Osama ready to hit the headlines
and Greenspan will say we are "strong" (too bad about no jobs).

And of course, those godless gays will besmirch our heritage if we don't keep W.

I feel better now than I did a few months ago - but this will be really nasty and down to the wire.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:36 PM
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14. Don't put anything past the Repukes
They've already attacking Kerry. They are calling him a "Northeastern Liberal" as "bad" as Teddy Kennedy. As a knee-jerk, bleeding heart Liberal, I'm proud to call myself one, but apparently it's considered evil.

Personally, although I don't agree with many of his positions, I think John Edwards would be the strongest candidate.

The country is divided -- we're all going to vote for the Democrat. They're going to vote for Bush. But there are many undecided voters, who base their choice on sound bites, charisma and attractiveness.

It's not right, but it's what it is. And I think Edwards would be the most attractive to these people. He looks good, he speaks well, and he's from the South.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 07:04 PM
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17. Hey!
Are you me?

or am I you?

I was just about to say almost the exact same things, especially WRT Edwards.

just think back at all the sickening pap about having a beer with the monkeyboy, or how comfortable he was in his own skin......that made me want to vomit so many times, I thought I was a closet bulimic.

never, EVER downplay the shallowness of the consuming public.


all one has to do is see what's popular on TV....Mencken's words have never rung more truly
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:57 PM
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16. The biggest obstacle is BBV
Without that problem, we have the election won. No one who voted for Gore will vote for Bush. Gore got half a million+ more votes than * in the last election. Lots of people who voted for Bush last election will vote for ABB this election.

The election is ours to lose and BBV is our weakest spot. Let's not assume the GOP won't use their best weapon against us. We all need to put some effort into eliminating the BBV weakness. NOW!

"FUCK Bush" Buttons, Stickers & Magnets
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MisterC2003 Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:03 AM
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22. What's BBV?
You guys use too many fucking acronyms. Would it KILL you to spell things out now and again? I've figure out DINO, ABB and a host of others, but BBV still eludes me. Big Beautiful Vegans? Bush's Big Vagina? Black, Brown and Violet?

OK, I think the most likely candidate is Bush's Bagdad Victory but it's still a guess.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:58 PM
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24. Black Box Voting
Of the Diebold ilk. Diebold is a major contributor to the monkey king's campaign, and they manufacture voting machines for which the source code is proprietary and not available for audit or inspection.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 07:15 PM
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19. Approval numbers are pointless...
the only numbers to look at are REELECTION numbers.

His reelections numbers have been below 50% for years.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 07:38 PM
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21. 53% according to FAUX?
And that could've been on a good stock market day too.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:42 PM
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26. Glad you are
I am starting to take bets on 4 more years of W. 4 to 1 odds. It is a sad time in America.
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