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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 06:08 PM
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DU needs a Bath!
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 07:03 PM by 9215
I'll provide the soap....((Just kidding))

Calling all Internet sleuths, disenchanted dissidents, reprobates of of all things BFEE and other interested persons and parties to cast their investigators eyes far and wide in search of one James Bath. Bath was Bush's AWOL coke' buddy from TANG; middleman, when not bagman, for Saudi Shieks in their business dealings with GW Bush; one time employee of FDR "hit" company Dupont in their smallcraft aviation Co.; and, in all probability, a contract muscleman for BFEE operations.

Where is Jim Bath?

I was informed as recently as Summer 2002 that he was in Texas, I think it was Houston. His wife divorced him over a real estate matter that itself has alot of oddities.

This guy knows alot about the BFEE.


Alot of this has been on DU for awhile. Here is some info from my notes:

In 1972 Dubya was safely in the Air National Guard and Awol after missing a physical. The military had recently imposed drug testing in April of that year and in August GW and a friend James Bath mysteriously dissappeared from the records,both missing their physicals. To this day noone has been able to confirm his presence at his duty station in ....... See Kerry, medal of honor winner, article: "I can understand him missing a weekend,but 17 months!"http://www.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/Kerrey_blasts_Bush_on_service+.shtml

"It was in the Air National Guard that Bath met George W. Bush. They became good friends, but, according to Bush, never did any business together. However, records filed in a lawsuit in Houston involving ath contradict the President's son: they show Bath was an investor in a Bush oil and gas enterprise. Bush did say that Bath "is alot of fun". (Houston Post, December 9, 1990.)...."

Bath would later become the chief trustee for two of the richest families in Saudi Arabia....including one which owned a Saudi bank that financed Adnan Khashoggi around the time of the Iranian Arms for hostages deal.......became an asset of the CIA reportedly recruited by George Bush (Poppy).

Straight Goods: http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewNote.cfm?REF=1173

It wasn't too long after Bath met bin Laden that he made a $50,000 investment in Arbusto Energy, a small oil company that was George P. (sic) Bush's first business venture. Arbusto means Bush in Spanish. Bath later claimed in court records that the $50,000 came from the bin Laden family. Investigative journalist Peter Brewton asserts in his book on the Bush clan that one of Bath's former business partners, Charles White, claims that it was in this very same year of 1976 that George W. Bush, then director of Central Intelligence for the Ford Administration, recruited Bath to work for the CIA. Brewton cites White as saying one of Bath's jobs was to report on the investments of Saudi millionaires. White, by the way, was another fighter pilot and went to Annapolis with Oliver North.

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SilasSoule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 06:16 PM
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1. Some of Bath's early Eighties Adventures.

After W. lost a bid for Congress, he decided to launch an oil company in Midland in 1979. For $50,000, Bath bought a 5 percent stake in W.’s Arbusto (Spanish for "Bush") partnerships. At the time, Bath also served as business agent for several prominent Saudis, including Salem bin Laden. In exchange for a percentage of the deals, Bath made U.S. investments for these clients in his own name, according to Time. Although Bath has said that he invested his own money in Arbusto, not Saudi money, the fact that he was Salem’s agent at the time has fueled speculation that Osama bin Laden’s eldest brother was an early investor in W.’s first oil venture. It was around the time of this investment, incidentally, that Osama bin Laden made his first trip to the Khyber Pass, where he would soon join the Mujaheddin and the CIA in the holy war that expelled the Soviets from Afghanistan. (Salem, for his part, owned a house in Marble Falls, and died in a 1988 plane crash near San Antonio.)


http://expage.com/notowaroniraq15a
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 06:19 PM
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2. Where are the pictures of bush* working on that fellows campaign?
Or are there any? Seems to me there has to be some residual evidence of bush* working for that fellow or am I getting the story wrong?
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 06:24 PM
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3. Not to sure I know what you mean
I don't know of any "campaigns" by Bath.
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 07:27 PM
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5. "campaigns" by Bath? Who's Bath?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 02:03 AM
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17. Read and learn. BATH was BFEE bagman re: Gulf Oil Petrodollars. Dig?
When it comes to ripping off the world's treasure and enslaving the world's masses, the House of Saud and the House of Bush are like THIS.

According to the Rethug Klayman of Judicial Watch(!), Poppy and Babs sleep over at the bin Ladens' house when they visit Saudi Arabia! It's no joke. These folks are CLOSE.

Everyone who doesn't know the story really should GOOGLE "James R. Bath" and "Adnan Khashoggi" to learn some important, underreported US history. These two crooks tie BCCI to BUSH to bin LADEN to 9-11.

Good luck!

-- Octafish


The Bush-Saudi Connection

By Michelle Mairesse

EXCERPT...

The Wahhabi Taliban in Afghanistan had the blessings of the Saudi royal family and of The Big Three--the bin Laden family, the al Ahmoudi family, and the Mahfouz family--the richest clans in that medieval kingdom. (A C.I.A. official testified to Congress that Khalid bin Mahfouz is bin Laden’s brother-in-law). The desert oligarchs profited from world-wide investments as well as sleazy banking schemes such as the infamous Bank of Credit and Commerce International.

Salem bin Laden, Osama’s brother, has conducted all his American affairs through James Bath, a Houston crony of the Bush family. Bath’s former business partner Bill White testified in court that Bath had been a liaison for the C.I.A. In 1979 Bath invested $50,000 in Arbusto, George W. Bush’s first business venture. Rumor had it that Bath was acting as Salem bin Laden’s representative. "In conflicting statements, Bush at first denied ever knowing Bath, then acknowledged his stake in Arbusto and that he was aware Bath represented Saudi interests." (4)

In addition to doing aviation business with Saudi sheiks, Bath was part owner of a Houston bank whose chief stockholder was Ghaith Pharaon, who represented the Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI), a criminal global bank with branches in 73 countries. BCCI proceeded to defraud depositors of $10 billion during the ‘80s, while providing a money laundry conduit for the Medellin drug cartel, Asia’s major heroin cartel, Manuel Noriega, Saddam Hussein, the C.I.A., and Islamist terrorist organizations worldwide. (5)

Big Three wheeler-dealer Khalid bin Mahfouz, one of the largest stockholders in the criminal bank, was indicted when the massive BCCI banking scandal blew apart in the early 1990s. The Saudi royal family placed him under house arrest after discovering that Mahfouz had used the royal bank to channel millions of dollars through fake charities into bin Laden’s organizations, but Mahfouz was not so much punished as inconvenienced. (6)

CONTINUED...

http://www.hermes-press.com/BushSaud.htm
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 02:17 PM
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21. Khashoggi starts a little company in Canada
and Georgie Sr. just before leaving office cites an 1870's law and gives that company (Barrick Gold Corp) $10 billion in gold mining rights on public land. Then poppy gets to be their international consultant. Congolese people didn't have a chance with George helping Barrick. This company was able in 1996 to get the Mobutu regime's Gold Office of Kilomoto, a government monopoly, to transfer mining rights over almost all its 82,000 square kilometers of land to Barrick. The land is estimated to have 100 tons of gold in reserve. Over 3 million lives have been lost in Congo since 1998.

Building the space station will require many of the rare minerals found in eastern Congo.

http://www.minesandcommunities.org/Company/kabilal.htm

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd02152003.html
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 07:59 PM
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7. I think he means the Alabama campaign that he asked for a transfer for
Where is documentation that Bush worked on the Alabama campaign. Maybe some of those campaign workers remember something about his ANG service.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 06:06 PM
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13. Hi Stephanie, did you post something
about the dates when Bush was AWOL?
Was it March of 72' to May of 73'?

What I have found out is that this is precisely the time that Hatfield claims, but apparently could not prove, that Dubya was doing community service.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 06:26 PM
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4. Thank you 9215 for keeping this issue alive -
The research you've done is terrific. Keep up the good work.

More information at this site.

http://www.salon.com/people/col/reit/1999/08/25/geob/

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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 08:42 PM
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8. I like the end of that article
August 1999: .....The Bush campaign refused to comment on the allegations. "We do not dignify false rumors and innuendos with a response," campaign spokesman Scott McClellan told Nothing Personal. "As a matter of principle, the governor refuses to play that game."

It's the kind of thing, McClellan maintains, that keeps good people out of politics......




No, Scott, its the kind of thing that keep bad people out of politics.



It should be noted that Bush refused to answer the question of his coke use when 13 candidates for the 2000 election were asked. He was the only one who refused to answer in the negative.




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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 07:57 PM
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6. From net detective
Name: BATH JAMES R

Address: 2705 61ST ST 53
City: GALVESTON
State: TX
Zip Code: 77551
County: GALVESTON

Name:
BATH JAMES R

Address: 7326 CAYTON ST
City: HOUSTON
State: TX
Zip Code: 77061
County: HARRIS

Name:
BATH JAMES R

Address: 7210 SIMS DR
City: HOUSTON
State: TX
Zip Code: 77061
County: HARRIS

Not sure if it's the same guy or he is still there but....
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 12:41 AM
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9. very interesting
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 01:02 AM
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10. Wonder if DUers from Houston knows more about this neighborhood.
Edited on Mon Jan-26-04 01:03 AM by 9215
Nice catch steviet.

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JetJaguar Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 01:37 AM
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11. It's 58 degrees and mostly cloudy.
It's next to the William P. Hobby airport

http://hou.houstonairportsystem.org/
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 01:46 PM
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12. ((So Bath can fly out in a hurry))
;-)
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 06:12 PM
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14. Here's an aerial photo of the Cayton St. address
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 01:53 AM
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15. BATH & BUSH & BFEE...
...need a BIG DU :kick: in their collective backsides! ASAFP!
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 01:59 AM
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16. maybe he joined the BAATH party :)
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 01:48 PM
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20. Welcome to DU
I was wondering about that too. LOL


In Peter Brewton's book "CIA, Mafia, and George Bush" there is a chapter titled: "CIA takes a Bath". It could have been "BAATH" as well.


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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 02:03 AM
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18. Agreed, good thing you are keeping this alive
I actually know someone who partied with Bush & friends during the air force / cocaine days. (She's dead).

Let's remember this onion has a lot of layers, and they all make my eyes water.

Bev Harris
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 02:27 PM
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22.  And thank you. I am sorry to hear that about your friend.
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 02:32 PM by 9215
I'll bet there are a long string of oddities around the fates of those who partied with Bush in his early years. He really covered his tracks (no pun intended).


I keep a network of acquaintances, official and non-official, regularly informed of what I'm doing; mail, e-mail (from other computers other than my own), phone booth calls periodically. Also I have neighbors and local friends informed who keep an eye on my humble abode that itself has alot of security. This process is called "hardening the target". I hate to tell people this stuff because I don't like to burst bubbles about the way this world really operates. You cannot be too cautious, but I don't let it stress me out too much. I take a break when I need to. My previous military training helps.


Thanks again. You really are holding their feet to the fire on voting. Voting is so fundamental to democracy.

Maybe this cabal is going to tumble and if they do alot of things will change for the better.


Keep up the fight, but take a break if you need to.

PS. Do you know about the Saudi ownership of the voting companies? p-mail me if you want more info.


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veggiemama Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:54 AM
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19. MUST READ interview with Bath assoc. Charles W. "Bill White . . .
From the intro page:

>>

Charles W. “Bill” White: In 1978, White graduated from Harvard’s business school with an MBA. He is introduced to a Houston-based businessman, Jim Bath who had become the North American business representative of Salem bin Laden, brother of Osama, and Khalid bin Mahfouz, a member of the most powerful banking family in Saudi Arabia. White is hired to run his real estate company, which is used to invest the two Saudis’ money in various ventures in Texas including George W. Bush’s oil company, Arbusto. When White has a falling out with Bath in 1986, Bath launches 28 lawsuits against White to drive him into financial ruin. The lawsuits disappear when the BCCI scandal breaks in the late ‘80s.

Bath talks about his personal knowledge of the relationship between the Bush family and the Bin Ladens.

<<

Lots of dirty laundry here:

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/white.pdf


http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/interviews.html
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