Killarney
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Sun Jan-25-04 08:01 PM
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20040126/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq_weapons_040125220262Kay: Lack of Iraqi WMD Requires Review U.S. intelligence agencies need to explain why their research indicated Iraq (news - web sites) possessed banned weapons before the American-led invasion, says the outgoing top U.S. inspector, who now believes Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) had no such arms.
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Sun Jan-25-04 08:03 PM
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1. Much stronger wording than before. |
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Blair and the Bush Administration's excuses need to improve.
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Zeke
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Sun Jan-25-04 08:09 PM
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Where was this guy BEFORE the invasion?
I live in Calif. do my 9-5 and even I knew Bush was lying, so what's with this guy now and why won;t any of the Dems get angry over this?!
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Sun Jan-25-04 08:18 PM
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It was obvious before the invasion to a whole lot of people that the Admin. was lying. Why they didn't speak out probably reguires research. Most people have agendas. Many people's agendas are profit oriented or protecting what they have. The invasion has profited a lot of people and some even think that no matter what the reasons that were given to invade, the ends justify the means. What ends there are depends on who is making that judgment, right?
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Sun Jan-25-04 08:12 PM
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3. Trying to wash away Smirks sins. |
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Lay it all on the intelligence agencies. Poor, poor, pitiful Smirk is blameless. Looks like that is where this spin is heading.
Will the CIA fight back?
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Sun Jan-25-04 08:17 PM
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4. Kay was a "True Believer" |
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before the invasion.
I tend to believe that he had a direct link to Cheney's Office and was being fed the same bull that Cheney is still spewing all over Europe.
His personal reputation and resume have been irreparably damaged by this incident and he is trying desperately to reconstitute himself for (what he believes to be) a position worthy of a man of his (imagined) stature.
This is going to get goo though.
How do you think BUSHCO* will discredit him?
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warrior1
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Sun Jan-25-04 08:29 PM
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the buck stop at bush's desk? or Cheney's?
This will all lead back the last years SOTU, when bush lied about it in this speech.
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salin
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Sun Jan-25-04 10:17 PM
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19. He WAS selected based on his 'true believer status'. |
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This development tells me a couple of things.
First - I am not sure he is turning on the WH, nor that they will discredit him. Reads more like giving an escape clause to the WH... ala the big CIA scapegoat.
Second - while others have predicted an attempted "plant" - I have never thought that would happen.. there is too much international media scrutiny and it would be detected and discredited. It would lead almost inevitably to a disaster for the administration. It has always been more likely that they try to use the lack of weapons to set the stage for the next invasion. Indeed Rummy and Wolfie... withing days of the invasion were already floating the theme... weapons were likely moved to Iran/Syria (refering to the countries interchangeably) in the days before the invasion.
But while they keep floating that rhetoric - Kay isn't tying that theme to this story. He keeps focusing on the CIA and Intelligence community.
I still fear that the crazy ideologues will attempt to tie the two themes together - though I don't yet see how they will do this.
All that said... I think Kay couldn't find enough to even try to spin into anything positive for the admin. But I don't think he will turn on them. Instead, in true believer form, I think he will continue to carry their water - in whichever direction they point. And at this moment... it is to play up the win in Iraq with the capture of Saddam ("accenuate the positive")... and blame the CIA on the pesky problem of no WMDs ("decenuate the negative...")
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Sun Jan-25-04 09:00 PM
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Asked his reaction to David Asswipe Kay's brilliant deductions - Blix say,
"If you find yourself on a train that's going in the wrong direction, its best to get off at the next stop."
BWAHAHAHAHA!!
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Sun Jan-25-04 09:06 PM
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8. I thought Kay was in sympathy with the administration |
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I thought Kay was in sympathy with the administration. Seems like he's changed his mind for some reason.
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Sun Jan-25-04 09:09 PM
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9. He is. They are trying to blame the CIA. Fortunately, the CIA quite |
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clearly said the info was poor and should not be used.
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Sun Jan-25-04 09:20 PM
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Poor Bush. He was just a victim of bad intelligence.
Fuck that shit
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Sun Jan-25-04 09:25 PM
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11. If anyone thinks the CIA is going to take the fall for this |
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they're wrong. The CIA will leak info about chimpy and friends and we'll see shit hit the fan.
Can you say "Valerie Plame," anyone?
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Sun Jan-25-04 09:45 PM
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the missing military records in that draw in Langley. Could it be?
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Old and In the Way
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Sun Jan-25-04 09:48 PM
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13. I'm betting a leak a week from now through the election. |
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I hope to hear interesting new details leaked about what this administration knew about 9/11. If he's lucky, he'll just lose the election and escape impeachment.
Lying, treasonous bastard.
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Sun Jan-25-04 09:58 PM
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15. Yes, the Plame story is integral to this |
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because she worked in ME WMDs intelligence. Also, don't forget "The Stovepipe" that Seymour Hersch wrote about - Cheney & Libby FORCING the skewed intelligence to fit the PNAC agenda. http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031027fa_fact
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Sun Jan-25-04 09:49 PM
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14. Oh my, the CIA is going to get really mad now. |
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Sun Jan-25-04 09:59 PM
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16. Maybe he's having a David Brock or Arianna Huffington epiphany? |
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I dunno, but surely it's possible that some of these people actually do have a conscience... ;-)
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Sun Jan-25-04 10:05 PM
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17. Oh. Thought "probe" of BFEE. Nevermind. n/t |
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Sun Jan-25-04 10:08 PM
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Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 10:09 PM by salin
wrong thread... never mind
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Sun Jan-25-04 11:09 PM
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20. O'Neill: Bush Planned to Invade Iraq From Day One |
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Let's not forget O'Neill's testimony ... he said bush and cheney were planning the invasion from the beginning of the bush administration ...
so, it is nonsense to suggest that the CIA made a mistake in their intelligence gathering before the invasion ... either they were told to say that WMD's existed, or they did not say it ...
bush et al (herein after referred to as the Defendants) were looking for something they could sell to the Congress and the American people ... and they found WMD's to sell ... but of course, Kay did not ... 500 Americans and countless Iraqis are dead ... tens of thousands are wounded ... and the U.S. has zero credibility left in the world ... and with far fewer allies, bushie boy has put the nation at much greater risk ...
Indictable ? Impeachable ?? Treasonous ??? ... you bet it was ...
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