For the last time people. McCain explained....

[KissMyAsscroft]

A lot of people here like McCain.

I'm going to type this slowly so all the McCain lovers here can keep up.

McCain...... is..... the.................. enemy.

When McCain criticizes Shrub, he is doing it to drag the party further to the RIGHT. Everyone got that? We don't need his dumb ass to make the point fron the right that the tax cuts were idiotic. That just legitimizes his point of view!!!!

Reading this site and seeing people praising McCain is disgusting and really makes me ashamed to share a board with people who are so DESPERATE that they will side with a right wing wacko because he dislikes Bush.

It's like reading FreakRepublic and seeing a bunch of posts praising Chomsky because he was bashing Al Gore...

You know, for how smart we all believe we are on this board there sure are a lot of suckers here.

It's this mentality that screws the left over time and time again.

[brainshrub]

1. I don't care what you say

I like McCain. For a Republican, he's bearable.

[KG]

2. he's just another RW maniac.

the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

3. Relax buddy.

You're criticizing McCain for being a partisan, yet you're not exactly distinguishing yourself from from that label with this thread.

McCain is the best thing Repubs have left.
And if his family's safety wasn't on the line (as it most surely is), he wouldn't be endorsing Bush right now.

[KissMyAsscroft]

4. This thread proves the illogical attactment to McCain I hate.

This guy would love nothing more than the destruction of the democratic party but he criticizes Bush, so he's A OK! LOL!

[PurityOfEssence]

12. Don't make no sense to me neither

He's breezy and twinkly and all that, but he's either a dangerous dupe of the RW credo, or he's an active monarchist dick. It doesn't much matter either way.

He's not a "nice" guy. He's not a buttoned-down responsibility type Republican. He's a cultural ideologue. He's a social darwinist. He's actively campaigning for Bush in New Hampshire today, and for whatever reason, he's backing a hate-filled group of murderous mercantile greedheads, and their crimes are no news to him.

Worse than anything, he's the kind of primitive who can be very appealing to many who should know better, and wreak havoc like you've never seen.

[IrateCitizen]

15. Wrong, wrong, wrong!!!

This guy would love nothing more than the destruction of the democratic party....

I don't believe this to be true at all. You're casting McCain into the same vat as the likes of DeLay, Gingrich, Bush, Cheney, Santorum, et. al. While any of them not only wish for -- but actively work toward -- the destruction of the Democratic Party, I do not see the same from McCain.

Don't get me wrong -- he's not a friend of liberal causes. But McCain is OPPOSITION, not ENEMY. It is a sad commentary, indeed, that the politics of personal destruction used by so many on the right has come to infect so many of us on the left and center-left.

There used to be a time in which people could vehemently disagree on ideas without trying to tear each other down. Apparently, those days are long gone and purity of thought has come to rule the day.

Woe upon us all. :-(

[NWHarkness]

5. It's a stumper.

A smiling crocodile is still a crocodile.

[Solly Mack]

6. I don't like McCain

He all too oftens appears to be Shrub's whipping boy.

I don't care if people do like McCain. I don't get it...but I don't care either.

[Ilsa]

7. I used to like McCain, but I can barely tolerate him now.

He is truly a GOP whore in every sense of the word for going to bat for Bush in NH today.

[Minstrel Boy]

8. Democrats embracing McCain

is an embarassing, ugly sight. It's the demented stepchild of "Anybody But Bush." If "anybody" includes a Republican, then pack it in, the Party's over.

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

9. Explain yourself..

I respect McCain. He's a conservative, but I respect him. How knee jerk are you, friend?

[SheilaT]

10. To begin with, McCain is NOT

a liberal. Not even for a Republican. He's very conservative, and it's possible to admire him for what he's been through in his life and for the fact that he's consistently stuck to his principles.

But those principles are not real compatible with those of the Democratic Party.

I, too, cannot understand the people here who gush over McCain. They must not know very much about him.

[Cleita]

11. He was campaigning for Bush in New Hampshire today.

:shrug: That alone disgusts me.

[SheilaT]

13. Why should it disgust you?

McCain is a REPUBLICAN, of course he's campaigning for Bush.

Anyone who has dreams of McCain being one of us is naive in the extreme.

Maybe the essential thing that the McCain Dreamers need to come to grips with is that for politicians/elected officials, political party is a lot more like being a priest/nun/imam/other professed or ordained person in a religious faith. Everything is seen through the eyes of the political party (specific faith) and going outside it (converting) is almost completely unthinkable. It happens occasionally -- Jeffords, Cardinal Newman -- but rarely.

It's nothing at all like us peons who see the political parties through the prism of our lives and experiences rather than the other way around. Plenty of us here don't necessarily agree with the party line, and many (I'm one) have in the (now distant) past voted for someone not a Democrat when we thought it was the best choice.

A staunch party member, such as McCain, is simply not going to go outside the Republican Party. It might be possible to get him to come around and think more like our way on various issues, but he's still going to remain a Republican.

[IrateCitizen]

14. McCain is NOT the "enemy" -- he's the "opposition"

Tom DeLay is the "enemy". George Bush is the "enemy". They are indicative of people who are so convinced that they are right, that they believe that they are entitled to pursue whatever means are necessary to further their ends. It matters not if they have to lie, cheat, steal, or destroy in the process. In their minds, they are completely justified.

I would hardly put John McCain into that same category. McCain may be opposition, and many of his ideas may be completely crackpot -- but he isn't going to try and destroy the people on the other side. He isn't going to lie, cheat and steal in order to win. Based on his work for CFR, I'd say he's a big believer in a process that allows ideas to be judged on their merit, rather than financial backing, in hopes that the best ideas come out in the end.

John McCain is much like a former Arizona Senator, Barry Goldwater. I respect John McCain, but there is no way I would vote for him or support his platform. But this fact does not make him the "enemy." It makes him a worthy opposition.