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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:04 AM
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OSP "Office of Special Plans" presented BAD intel NOT the CIA!..must read
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 08:28 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
this MUST be screamed from the rooftops NOW....write/call/email this to your reps and the media...just google "Office of Special Plans"there is tons of eviedence about the OSP and intel for war!

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/wot/iraq/office_of_special_plans.html

“They were a pretty shadowy presence. Normally when you compile an intelligence document, all the agencies get together to discuss it. The OSP was never present at any of the meetings I attended.” - Gregory Thielmann, a senior official in the state department's intelligence

"That office was charged with collecting, vetting and disseminating intelligence completely outside of the normal intelligence apparatus. In fact, it appears that information collected by this office was in some instances not even shared with established intelligence agencies and in numerous instances was passed on to the national security council and the president without having been vetted with anyone other than political appointees"- Democratic congressman David Obey

Summary:

Soon after September 11, a small intelligence office was created by the Pentagon to assess the threat that Iraq allegedly posed to the U.S. It remained relatively secret during the first year of its existence, known only by Donald Rumsfeld's inner circle of neoconservative ideologues. Sources within the intelligence community told reporters that the group, known as the Office of Special Plans, cherry-picked intelligence from questionable sources to support the case for invading Iraq. The intelligence team's conclusions were presented directly to the White House and National Security Agency without first being vetted by other intelligence agencies, like the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency. The office was also blamed for the administration's lack of post-war plans in Iraq and accused of undermining the administration's policy towards Iran.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:39 AM
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1. for more info about the OSP, please see this
I started collecting links about the OSP a while back and have assembled them here:
theBlatantTruth: U.S. Wars and Foreign Policy
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:45 AM
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2. excellent job!!!.plaster this all over the net and send to media &congress
:yourock:
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:04 PM
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22. I sent a letter to my repug congressman last August
asking for an investigation of Cheney's and the OSP's role in the development of I-raq intelligence.

I also picked apart every statement made by Powell, Cheney, Bush and Andrew Card prior to the war regarding I-raqi WMD -and called them all lies.

It fell on deaf ears. All I got back from him was Rove-speak boilerplate.

Democrats are going to have to take back either the Senate or the House (or the WH) before we will see any real investigation of this...





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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:52 AM
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3. Some more data
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:08 AM
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6. Will.thanks...and i have these "truthout" docs placed in all local
establishments...and replace them weekly...you have done a great job...when will we hear more from Ritter now that he has been vindicated by Kay's retirement and report? ...i will not be holding my breath...sigh
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:59 AM
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4. Hell...we can't even convince people that the 2000 election...
...was really a coup. Given that fact...how can we get this important information through the American Media Filter?

- Keep in mind that Bush* has gotten away with obstructing the 9-11 investigation and outting a CIA agent for revenge.

- This is Bush's* war...planned and executed outside of the normal channels of the intelligence services. But most Americans will never be told these facts.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:15 AM
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7. Q yes i know..but i must keep clinging to "the truth WILL prevail" or
else surely i WILL loss my sanity! ....... not joking
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:38 PM
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17. Truth will prevail only if we investigate and hold a trial.....Call Scalia
LOL!!!

But long before we can do this we have to physically arrest these
Buckos and then prosecute.
Then and only then will Truth and Justice prevail.

Yes ....believe it or not, I'm an optimist but responsible action comes first.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:08 AM
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5. And who arranged for them to do that job?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:05 PM
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41. thank you.....that's the bottomline
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:37 AM
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8. And speaking of nefarious group activities in this corrupt administration,
the WH 'Office of Global Communications' is a gem that Goebbels would admire.

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snip

Target No. 1: Hussein. When Bush created the Office of Global Communications by executive order on Jan. 21, its aim
was to coordinate public relations across the administration. The office's first report, issued almost immediately, was
"Apparatus of Lies: Saddam's Disinformation and Propaganda 1990-2003." The office is headed by Tucker Eskew,
a soft-spoken but brass-knuckles political operative who ran Bush's South Carolina presidential primary campaign.

Every morning at 9:30 Washington time, a conference call with Global Communications offices in Qatar and London and
other U.S. agencies sets the message of the day. The Washington office also issues the "Global Messenger," a daily e-mail
to U.S. embassies and others outlining the administration's message. On March 24, while the U.S. media were reporting that
the invasion had fallen behind schedule, the Messenger reported that "news accounts today paint a vivid picture of joy
and relief inside Iraq. American and coalition troops were being welcomed by smiling Iraqis."

The office has taken on myriad production duties too. At the forward headquarters of Central Command, Eskew's
colleagues primed Gen. Tommy Franks, who is overseeing the war, for his first wartime news conference. When Bush
gave his State of the Union address, the office arranged for Deputy Defense Secretary Wolfowitz to watch it with
about 20 reporters from Egypt, China, Russia and elsewhere. Afterward, Wolfowitz did individual interviews,
providing White House spin to TV markets around the world.

The Global Communications Office was created about a year after the Pentagon met with disaster with a similar operation.
The Pentagon's Office of Strategic Influence was accused of planning to spread disinformation. The Pentagon denied the
accusations but shut it anyway. Three days after the White House office opened, Eskew went to the Foreign Press Center
in Washington to introduce himself to foreign reporters and to field questions. The first question, from a German reporter,
was whether he was setting up the "Office of Disinformation" the Pentagon had tried to set up.
"Our executive order," Eskew told the reporters, "insists that we deal with the truth."

http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/medialies.html


Its run by Tucker Eskew, who also ran Shrub's infamous South Carolina primary campaign against McCain.


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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:02 AM
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9. Thank you
I was looking for a comprehensive explaination of the OSP to explain it to some skeptical friends. This is THE source. Thank you.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:38 AM
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10. Selective intelligence was used by the Pentagon, which overcame the CIA
the neo-conservatives dominated decision-making IMHO with their own intelligence-much of it garbage.
Pentagon muzzles CIA link
http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/22/dreyfuss-r.html
OSP article by Seymour Hersh
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030512fa_fact

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:38 AM
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11. More information on the OSP
Scary scary group, cooking the intelligence books to get the result they want, all straight from inside the Pentagon. Here is more from the latest issue of Mother Jones. <http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_405.html>

No, I do not see the CIA as the one to blame for bad intelligence. I read somewhere(and unfortunately buried) an article about a CIA report back in '98 that said the Iraqis had NO WMD. I somebody has a link, I would certainly appreciate it.

Bushco wants intelligence that fits their plans, everything else is dismissed. Hence they are not getting a complete picture of events, making their actions reckless and criminal. I'm really wondering when the CIA is going to say enough is enough and spill all of the beans.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:50 AM
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12. So..do I understand this correctly? The CIA did not give bad intel...
the OSP (along with Rummy) came up with the intelligence saying Saddam was an imminent threat to the US.

Why is the CIA silent on this? Particularly now that the whole blame is onthem.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:21 AM
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13. No, the CIA was brokering in honest intelligence
There was a report out before the war started that the CIA had issued a report back in 1998 unequivocally stating that Saddam had no WMD. It is one of the reasons that I have to hold the Senators and Congressmen who voted for the IWR responsible, because there was reliable intelligence out there that was contradicting everything that Bushco said. I wish a had a copy of this report handy, but unfortunately it is buried in a Zip disk in by "to file and organize pile".

No, what Bushco did is set up it's own intelligence office within the Pentagon proper. The people who did the collecting and analysis of intelligence in the OSP were VERY selective in what they passed on. If a piece of information didn't fit in with the overall Bushco/PNAC plan, then down the memory hole it went. Accordingly they also fabricated intelligence and passed on only that which Bushco wanted to hear. People inside the Pentagon and CIA who aren't in the Bushco camp are furious.

And I don't know that the CIA is entirely silent on this matter. I think there is a lot of behind the scenes battling going on between the two camps, which is why we keep seeing sudden eruptions like the Plame affair surfacing over the past year.
I think that at some point the CIA is going to get pushed too far and will bring the whole house of cards down around Bushco ears.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:32 AM
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15. but NOT before the PNAC plan to render the CIA completely incompetent
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 11:36 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
is completed....they have been at it from day 1 - PNAC to destroyed/dismantle/discredit the CIA and FBI in the sheeple's eyes in order to place their stromtroopers in its place.....same tactics used on the UN
the CIA needs to act NOW!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:26 AM
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14. they will NOT be silent on OSP forever...the Rove WH is in full spin and
block mode along with its whore the media :puke:
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:49 PM
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20. Most of those who'd want to speak out
are no longer with the CIA. There are hearings, talks, some shown on C-SPAN, but not in the mainstream media because those are owned by the same corporations that have an interest in keeping Bush in place and to keep the war going.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:58 PM
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21. What about VIPS, Ray McGovern and
all the other spooks that aren't Bush's PNAC teamplayers?
I mean we all have to defend the Constitution, that is our rallying point.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:58 AM
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16. We absolutely must HAMMER this home
:grr:
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:41 PM
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18. OSP - The Elephant in the Living Room
And they're all talking around it. Conspiracy anyone?
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:39 PM
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19. try this series from someone who was THERE, inside the OSP
Karen Kwiatkowski, writing on her experiences, in a conservative magazine

http://www.amconmag.com/12_1_03/feature.html
In Rumsfeld’s Shop
A senior Air Force officer watches as the neocons consolidate their Pentagon coup.


http://www.amconmag.com/12_15_03/article3.html
Conscientious Objector
A senior Air Force officer watches civilians craft the war plan.


http://www.amconmag.com/1_19_04/article1.html
Open Door Policy
A strange thing happened on the way to the war.

snip from the second installment:

The establishment of the Office of Special Plans, under Abe Shulsky, and including several military folks, a civil servant or two, and the larger group of neocon-friendly appointees or contractors, meant to the rest of us that we would have more space and a reduction in cross-regional chatter. The Iraq-war planning aspect would now be isolated from the rest of NESA and would establish its own rhythm and cadence, separate from the non-political-minded professionals covering the rest of the region. In planning a war, loose lips sink ships, and if anyone didn’t remember this World War II slogan, the Pentagon had several posters in common areas to remind us.

(Interestingly, the planning and execution of wars—writing and implementing war plans—is the function of the Combatant Commander, with the Joint Staff as chief technical advisor and the Undersecretary of Policy as policy advisor. The Secretary of Defense approves, but combatant commanders work directly for the president. Nowhere in OSD should one, by law, custom, or common sense, find people busy developing and writing war plans, even if they are special.)

If they were not writing war plans, the Office of Special Plans did produce something related to the upcoming war. By August, only the Pollyannas at the Pentagon felt that the decision to invade Iraq, storm Baghdad, and take over the place (or give it to Ahmad Chalabi) was reversible. What was still being worked out at that time was the propaganda piece, a sustained refinement of the storyline that had been hinted at in neoconservative circles and the White House for months, even years.

Based on the successful second leak of the war plans in July, Washington’s initial reactions of “Oh, no—so many troops!” was shaped masterfully by the Pentagon publicity machine with offended and vociferous denials of the stories, claiming that the operation would not require nearly that many troops. It was a propaganda coup of understated elegance and razor-edged acumen.


unlike Gary Aldrich, this is one person you're not likely to see haunting the liberal airwaves

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:00 PM
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23. kick
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:47 PM
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24. mega
send this thread to your reps
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:53 PM
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25. elsewhere...
I click the link and all's I get is this...

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@cooperativeresearch.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:38 PM
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29. holy crap!! tdo you think hey're scrubbing the net of any OSP info?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:30 PM
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26. THIS is why they don't want and independent review
The OSP is big trouble for them.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:32 PM
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27. I got an error page when I clicked on the link
:-(
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:33 PM
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28. Here's more re the OSP

The spies who pushed for war

Julian Borger reports on the shadow rightwing intelligence network set up in Washington to second-guess the CIA and deliver a justification for toppling Saddam Hussein by force

Thursday July 17, 2003
The Guardian

As the CIA director, George Tenet, arrived at the Senate yesterday to give secret testimony on the Niger uranium affair, it was becoming increasingly clear in Washington that the scandal was only a small, well-documented symptom of a complete breakdown in US intelligence that helped steer America into war.


It represents the Bush administration's second catastrophic intelligence failure. But the CIA and FBI's inability to prevent the September 11 attacks was largely due to internal institutional weaknesses. This time the implications are far more damaging for the White House, which stands accused of politicising and contaminating its own source of intelligence.

According to former Bush officials, all defence and intelligence sources, senior members of the administration created a shadow agency of Pentagon analysts staffed mainly by ideological amateurs to compete with the CIA and its military counterpart, the Defence Intelligence Agency. snip

The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party.

In 1996, he and Richard Perle - now an influential Pentagon figure - served as advisers to the then Likud leader, Binyamin Netanyahu. In a policy paper they wrote, entitled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, the two advisers said that Saddam would have to be destroyed, and Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran would have to be overthrown or destabilised, for Israel to be truly safe.

<snip>

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html
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No weapons in Iraq? We'll find them in Iran

By Neil Mackay Sunday Herald

Sunday 01 June 2003

Ironically, it was the ultra-hawkish US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld who let the cat out of the bag when he said on Wednesday: 'It is possible Iraqi leaders decided they would destroy (WMDs) prior to the conflict.' If that was true then Saddam had fulfilled the criteria of UN resolution 1441 and there was absolutely no legal right for the US and UK to go to war. Rumsfeld's claim that Iraq might have destroyed its weapons makes a mockery of the way the US treated the UN's chief weapons inspector Dr Hans Blix. The US effectively told him he wasn't up to the job and the Iraqis had fooled him.

<snip>

With September 11 as his ideological backdrop, Rumsfeld decided in autumn 2001 to establish a new intelligence agency, independent of the CIA and the Pentagon, called the Office of Special Plans (OSP). He put his deputy, Wolfowitz, in charge. The pair were dissatisfied with the failure of the CIA among others to provide firm proof of both Saddam's alleged WMD arsenal and links to al-Qaeda.

<snip>

That was the policy blueprint, but to deliver it Rumsfeld turned to the Office of Special Plans. Put simply, the OSP was told to come up with the evidence of WMD to give credence to US military intervention. But what do conventional intelligence experts make of the OSP? Colonel Patrick Lang is a former chief of human intelligence for the Pentagon's Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) in the 1990s. He was also the DIA's chief of Middle East intelligence and was regularly in Iraq. He said of the OSP : 'This office had a great deal of influence in a number of places in Washington in a way that seemed to me to be excessive and rather ill-advised. 'The regular organisations of the intelligence community have very rigorous rules for how you evaluate information and resources, and tend to take a conservative view of analytic positions because they're going to dictate government decisions. 'That wasn't satisfactory in Secretary Rumsfeld's Pentagon so he set up a separate office to review this data, and the people in this office, although they're described as intelligence people, are by and large congressional staffers. They seemed to me not to have deceived intentionally but to have seen in the data what they believe is true. I think it's a very risky thing to do.'

<snip>

In a further curious twist, an intelligence source claimed the real 'over-arching strategic reason' for the war was the road map to peace, designed to settle the running sore of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The source said: 'I believe that Britain and America see the road map as fundamental. They were being told by Ariel Sharon's government that Israel would not play ball until Saddam was out of the picture. That was the condition. So he had to go.'

<snip>

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0601-02.htm

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<snip>
"They are running their own intelligence operation, including covert action, and are using contractors outside the government to do some of the leg work," said a former top CIA official. "Their area of work has been concentrated on Iraq, which is why the intelligence on WMD was so bad, but they have a much broader portfolio. The office is undergoing some scrutiny from inside the government given its poor track record and the lack of 'sanity checking' their products with the intelligence community. A lot of material they produce is not shared with CIA, not coordinated, and finds its way into public policy statements by the likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney."
</snip>

more . . .
http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.06.06/news6.html

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White man's burden - EXCELLENT Ha'aretz article to bookmark

Edited on Wed Jul-09-03 10:29 PM by Tinoire
This excellent analysis is an absolute keeper!
Peace

<snip>

In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history. They believe that the right political idea entails a fusion of morality and force, human rights and grit. The philosophical underpinnings of the Washington neoconservatives are the writings of Machiavelli, Hobbes and Edmund Burke. They also admire Winston Churchill and the policy pursued by Ronald Reagan. They tend to read reality in terms of the failure of the 1930s (Munich) versus the success of the 1980s (the fall of the Berlin Wall).

Are they wrong? Have they committed an act of folly in leading Washington to Baghdad? They don't think so. They continue to cling to their belief. They are still pretending that everything is more or less fine. That things will work out. Occasionally, though, they seem to break out in a cold sweat. This is no longer an academic exercise, one of them says, we are responsible for what is happening. The ideas we put forward are now affecting the lives of millions of people. So there are moments when you're scared. You say, Hell, we came to help, but maybe we made a mistake.

<snip>
((William Kristol))

Kristol is pleasant-looking, of average height, in his late forties. In the past 18 months he has used his position as editor of the right-wing Weekly Standard and his status as one of the leaders of the neoconservative circle in Washington to induce the White House to do battle against Saddam Hussein. Because Kristol is believed to exercise considerable influence on the president, Vice President Richard Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, he is also perceived as having been instrumental in getting Washington to launch this all-out campaign against Baghdad. Sitting behind the stacks of books that cover his desk at the offices of the Weekly Standard in Northwest Washington, he tries to convince me that he is not worried. It is simply inconceivable to him that America will not win. In that event, the consequences would be catastrophic. No one wants to think seriously about that possibility.

<snip>

((Charles Krauthammer))
And what if the experiment fails? What if America is defeated?

This war will enhance the place of America in the world for the coming generation, Krauthammer says. Its outcome will shape the world for the next 25 years. There are three possibilities. If the United States wins quickly and without a bloodbath, it will be a colossus that will dictate the world order. If the victory is slow and contaminated, it will be impossible to go on to other Arab states after Iraq. It will stop there. But if America is beaten, the consequences will be catastrophic. Its deterrent capability will be weakened, its friends will abandon it and it will become insular. Extreme instability will be engendered in the Middle East.

You don't really want to think about what will happen, Krauthammer says looking me straight in the eye. But just because that's so, I am positive we will not lose. Because the administration understands the implications. The president understands that everything is riding on this. So he will throw everything we've got into this. He will do everything that has to be done. George W. Bush will not let America lose.


<snip>

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&sw=n...

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The CIA declined to say how the agency eventually obtained the documents. Officials at several other U.S. agencies, including the State Department, declined to say whether another U.S. government agency possessed or viewed them before Bush's speech last January.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030716/ap_on_go_ca...

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Published on Wednesday, May 7, 2003 in the Times/UK
America's Weapons Evidence Flawed, Say Spies
by Tim Reid in Washington


<snip>

Present and former CIA officials, quoted in The New York Times and The New Yorker magazine, claimed that a small number of powerful neo-conservative ideologues in the Pentagon were so determined to prove the existence of a banned weapons program and links to al-Qaeda that they manipulated intelligence.

According to a report written by Seymour Hersh, the veteran New Yorker investigative reporter, the Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans (OSP) relied too heavily on suspect intelligence provided by Iraqi defectors with links to the Iraqi National Congress, an opposition group headed by Ahmad Chalabi, an Iraqi exile.

<snip>

One former CIA official told Mr Hersh: “One of the reasons I left was my sense that they (OSP) were using the intelligence from the CIA and other agencies only when it fits their agenda. They were so crazed and so far out and so difficult to reason with . . . as if they were on a mission from God. If it doesn’t fit their theory, they don’t want to accept it.”

<snip>

Patrick Lang, a former head of Middle Eastern affairs in the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence agency, told Nicholas Kristof, of The New York Times, that when experts wrote reports skeptical about the existence of weapons of mass destruction “they were encouraged to think it over again”.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0507-09.htm

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Published on Sunday, June 8, 2003 by The Sunday Herald
Revealed: The Secret Cabal Which Spun for Blair
by Neil Mackay

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/unmovic/2003/0608secr...

Britain ran a covert 'dirty tricks' operation designed specifically to produce misleading intelligence that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction to give the UK a justifiable excuse to wage war on Iraq. Operation Rockingham, established by the Defense Intelligence Staff within the Ministry of Defense in 1991, was set up to 'cherry-pick' intelligence proving an active Iraqi WMD program and to ignore and quash intelligence which indicated that Saddam's stockpiles had been destroyed or wound down.

The existence of Operation Rockingham has been confirmed by Scott Ritter, the former UN chief weapons inspector, and a US military intelligence officer. He knew members of the Operation Rockingham team and described the unit as 'dangerous', but insisted they were not 'rogue agents' acting without government backing. 'This policy was coming from the very highest levels,' he added.

<snip>

Sources in both the British and US intelligence community are now equating the JIC with the Office of Special Plans (OSP) in the US Pentagon. The OSP was set up by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to gather intelligence which would prove the case for war. In a staggering attack on the OSP, former CIA officer Larry Johnson told the Sunday Herald the OSP was 'dangerous for US national security and a threat to world peace', adding that it 'lied and manipulated intelligence to further its agenda of removing Saddam'.

He added: 'It's a group of ideologues with pre-determined notions of truth and reality. They take bits of intelligence to support their agenda and ignore anything contrary. They should be eliminated.' Johnson said that to describe Saddam as an 'imminent threat' to the West was 'laughable and idiotic'. He said many CIA officers were in 'great distress' over the way intelligence had been treated. 'We've entered the world of George Orwell,' Johnson added. 'I'm disgusted. The truth has to be told. We can't allow our leaders to use bogus information to justify war.'

<snip>

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/unmovic/2003/0608secr...

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America And Impeachment

` Kent Southard, Bush Watch

The simple, unadorned facts are these - the only 'intelligence' source that professed unequivocally that Iraq had stockpiles of WMD and an ongoing nuclear weapons program was the Pentagon's Office of Special Programs, established by Donald Rumsfeld and which had no agents in the field, only a half-dozen 'analysts' that were actually Republican congressional staffers. Their reports were contradicted by every other intelligence organization in the world, including our CIA and DIA and Britain's MI6. The only source for OSP's 'intel' was Ahmed Chalabi, a convicted swindler who left Iraq during the Eisenhower administration, and who had been promised by the Bush administration to be the top candidate to rule Iraq should Saddam Hussein be overthrown.

<snip>

This was all obviously known by the Bush administration, and accordingly it is also obvious that the administration lied through its teeth about the reasons for warring on Iraq, lied in every generality and every particular. Virtually every member of this administration that wanted this war is also a signator of the Project for a New American Century, whose plan formulated some years ago calls for domination of the world's oil supply, starting with an invasion of Iraq.

These are the simple, unadorned facts. Either the American people demand an Impeachment of this president and vice-president and they are removed from office; or else the America of the founding fathers is finished, and we might as well admit it. --06.16.03


http://www.bushwatch.com/kent.htm

Remember Bush in Iraq with that Plastic turkey? Chalabi was there, fat pig applauding that idiot (www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=chalabi+bush+thanksgiv... )

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Posted June 19, 2003

More Missing Intelligence
by Robert Dreyfuss

<snip>

According to the former official, also feeding information to the Office of Special Plans was a secret, rump unit established last year in the office of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel. This unit, which paralleled Shulsky's--and which has not previously been reported--prepared intelligence reports on Iraq in English (not Hebrew) and forwarded them to the Office of Special Plans. It was created in Sharon's office, not inside Israel's Mossad intelligence service, because the Mossad--which prides itself on extreme professionalism--had views closer to the CIA's, not the Pentagon's, on Iraq. This secretive unit, and not the Mossad, may well have been the source of the forged documents purporting to show that Iraq tried to purchase yellowcake uranium for weapons from Niger in West Africa, according to the former official.

<snip>

Astonishingly, the Bush Administration did not even bother to prepare and internally publish an intelligence estimate about postwar Iraq. (An "estimate," in intelligence jargon, is a formal evaluation produced after sifting, sorting and analyzing various bits and pieces of raw intelligence. So-called National Intelligence Estimates are produced by a unit that reports immediately to Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet.) "Back in the old days, there would have been an estimate," says Raymond McGovern, the twenty-seven-year CIA warrior who formed Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity this past January. "In their arrogance, they didn't worry about it."

<snip>

Other sources concur. "There was no intelligence estimate done, and there weren't a lot of questions being asked," says Melvin Goodman, a former CIA analyst with the Center for International Policy. "And I know for a fact that at CIA and NSA , none of them thought that postwar Iraq would be governable." Goodman says that CIA and DIA experts on Iraq were not called in by the Pentagon, and no intelligence roundtables were held to evaluate the situation. Most of the intelligence about how easily the INC and its allies could assume power in Iraq was coming from the INC itself, says a former State Department official. "And I know for a fact that when the subject came up, intelligence officers were extraordinarily skeptical of the exiles' information."

<snip>

On the eve of the invasion, there was something akin to panic at the Norfolk,Virginia-based US Joint Forces Command, which was responsible for supporting the Pentagon's Iraq task force, then headed by retired Gen. Jay Garner. "They were scared shitless," says a former US official who was in close contact with the command. "They were making it up as they went along." He adds, "There was a great deal of ignorance. They didn't know the names of the tribes, much less how they relate to each other. They didn't have the expertise, and they didn't have enough time to assemble the expertise."

<snip>

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030707&s=dreyfuss

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Bush 'skewed facts to justify attack on Iraq'

A growing number of US national security professionals are accusing the Bush Administration of slanting the facts and hijacking the intelligence apparatus to justify its rush to war in Iraq.

A key target is a four-person Pentagon team that reviewed material gathered by other intelligence outfits for any missed bits that might have tied Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to banned weapons or terror groups.

This team, self-mockingly called the cabal, "cherry-picked the intelligence stream" in a bid to portray Iraq as an imminent threat, said Patrick Lang, a former head of worldwide human intelligence gathering for the Defence Intelligence Agency, which coordinates military intelligence.
...
The INC, which brought together groups opposed to Saddam, worked closely with the Pentagon to build a case against Iraq. "There are current intelligence officials who believe it is a scandal," Mr Cannistraro said.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/31/1054177765483.html

Cheney Investigated Forged Niger Uranuium Document

As though this were normal! I mean the repeated visits Vice President Dick Cheney made to the CIA before the war in Iraq. The visits were, in fact, unprecedented. During my 27-year career at the Central Intelligence Agency, no vice president ever came to us for a working visit.

During the '80s, it was my privilege to brief Vice President George H.W. Bush, and other very senior policy makers every other morning. I went either to the vice president's office or (on weekends) to his home. I am sure it never occurred to him to come to CIA headquarters.

The morning briefings gave us an excellent window on what was uppermost in the minds of those senior officials and helped us refine our tasks of collection and analysis. Thus, there was never any need for policy makers to visit us. And the very thought of a vice president dropping by to help us with our analysis is extraordinary. We preferred to do that work without the pressure that inevitably comes from policy makers at the table.

Cheney got into the operational side of intelligence as well. Reports in late 2001 that Iraq had tried to acquire uranium from Niger stirred such intense interest that his office let it be known he wanted them checked out. So, with the CIA as facilitator, a retired U.S. ambassador was dispatched to Niger in February 2002 to investigate. He found nothing to substantiate the report and lots to call it into question. There the matter rested – until last summer, after the Bush administration made the decision for war in Iraq.
...
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=6e9d5502599dc6a2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic...

Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11

(CBS) CBS News has learned that barely five hours after American Airlines Flight 77 plowed into the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld was telling his aides to come up with plans for striking Iraq — even though there was no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the attacks.

That's according to notes taken by aides who were with Rumsfeld in the National Military Command Center on Sept. 11 – notes that show exactly where the road toward war with Iraq began, reports CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin.
...
Now, nearly one year later, there is still very little evidence Iraq was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks. But if these notes are accurate, that didn't matter to Rumsfeld.

"Go massive," the notes quote him as saying. "Sweep it all up. Things related and not." (Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld hours after 9/11 attack)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/04/september11/main520830.shtml
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic...

A call to maintain CIA independence.

As the White House searches for every possible excuse to go to war with Iraq, pressure has been building on the intelligence agencies to deliberately slant estimates to fit a political agenda. In this case, the agencies are being pressed to find a casus belli for war, whether or not one exists.

"Basically, cooked information is working its way into high-level pronouncements, and there's a lot of unhappiness about it in intelligence, especially among analysts at the CIA," Vince Cannistraro, the agency's former head of counterterrorism, told The Guardian, a London newspaper.

This confirms what Knight-Ridder reporters found: "A growing number of military officers, intelligence professionals and diplomats privately have deep misgivings about the administration's double-time march toward war," the news service reported recently. "They charge that the administration squelches dissenting views and that intelligence analysts are under intense pressure to produce reports supporting the White House's argument that Saddam poses such an immediate threat to the United States that pre-emptive military action is necessary."
...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2002-10-24-oped-bamford_x.htm

U.S. Insiders Say Iraq Intel Deliberately Skewed
...
The DIA was "exploited and abused and bypassed in the process of making the case for war in Iraq based on the presence of WMD," or weapons of mass destruction, he added in a phone interview. He said the CIA had "no guts at all" to resist the allegedly deliberate skewing of intelligence by a Pentagon that he said was now dominating U.S. foreign policy.

Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of Central Intelligence Agency counterterrorist operations, said he knew of serving intelligence officers who blame the Pentagon for playing up "fraudulent" intelligence, "a lot of it sourced from the Iraqi National Congress of Ahmad Chalabi."
...
They believe the administration, before going to war, had a "moral obligation to use the best information available, not just information that fits your preconceived ideas."

CHEMICAL WEAPONS REPORT 'SIMPLY WRONG'

The top Marine Corps officer in Iraq, Lt. Gen. James Conway, said on Friday U.S. intelligence was "simply wrong" in leading military commanders to fear troops were likely to be attacked with chemical weapons in the March invasion of Iraq that ousted Saddam.

Richard Perle, a Chalabi backer and member of the Defense Policy Board that advises Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, defended the four-person unit in a television interview.
...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=2&u=/nm...

CIA had doubts on Iraq link to al-Qaida

The debunking of the Bush administration's pre-war certainties on Iraq gathered pace yesterday when it emerged that the CIA knew for months that a connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida was highly unlikely.

As President George Bush was forced for the second time in days to defend the decision to go to war, a new set of leaks from CIA officials suggested a tendency in the White House to suppress or ignore intelligence findings which did not shore up the case for war.
...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,974182,00.html

Ex-CIA Officers Questioning Iraq Data

A small group composed mostly of retired CIA officers is appealing to colleagues still inside to go public with any evidence the Bush administration is slanting intelligence to support its case for war with Iraq.

Members of the group contend the Bush administration has released information on Iraq that meets only its ends -- while ignoring or withholding contrary reporting.

They also say the administration's public evidence about the immediacy of Iraq's threat to the United States and its alleged ties to al-Qaida is unconvincing, and accuse policy-makers of pushing out some information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standards of proof.

"It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," said Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who briefed top Reagan administration security officials before retiring in 1990. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days." ---
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030314/ap_on_go_pr...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID61/18413.html

Public was misled, claim ex-CIA men

A GROUP of former US intelligence officials has written to President Bush claiming that the US Congress and the American public were misled about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction before the war.

The group’s members, most of them former CIA analysts, say that they have close contacts withsenior officials working inside the US intelligence agencies, who have told them that intelligence was“cooked” to persuade Congress to authorise the war.

The manipulation of intelligence has, they say, produced “a policy and intelligence fiasco of monumental proportions”. They write in the letter to Mr Bush: “While there have been occasions in the past when intelligence has been deliberately warped for political purposes, never before has such warping been used in such a systematic way to mislead our elected representatives into voting to authorise launching a war.

“You may not realise the extent of the current ferment within the intelligence community and particularly the CIA. In intelligence, there is one unpardonable sin — cooking intelligence to the recipe of high policy. There is ample indication that this has been done in Iraq.”
...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5944-698028,00.html

MEMORANDUM FOR: The President
FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0207-04.htm

U.S. diplomats also tried to stop this invasion:

U.S. Diplomat's Letter of Resignation
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/27/international/27WEB-TNAT.html

Letter of Resignation (Mary Wright)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/marywright.asp

U.S. Mongolian Diplomat Resigns Over Iraq (Fourth U.S. Diplomat)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=542&e=84&u=/ap/200303...

Third U.S. Diplomat Resigns Over Iraq Policy
http://truthout.org/docs_03/032303G.shtml

Second US Diplomat Resigns in Protest
http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/03.03/0314krieger_diplo_resign.htm
U.S. diplomat resigns over Iraq war plans
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N10105063.htm

Niger-Uranium Timeline
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=niger_timeline

THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND WMDs: THEN AND NOW
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=bush_wmd_summar...

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Richard Perle


In 1968 the neocons backed the late Senator Hubert Humphrey from Minnesota for president. In 1972, they mobilized their support behind the late Senator Henry Jackson from Washington. Both Humphrey and Jackson represented staunch anti-Soviet and pro-Israeli positions in the party...Senator Jackson's aides, Richard Perle and Elliott Abrams, who later became major figures in the Reagan foreign policy team, attempted to torpedo any effort by the Nixon and Carter administrations to improve relations with the Soviet Union or to launch peace efforts in the Middle East. From Jackson's office, the two led the campaign to use the issue of Jewish immigration from the Soviet Union to sabotage detente between Washington and Moscow...The neoconservatives formed the Coalition for a Democratic Majority (CDM) in 1973, aimed at rallying anti-Soviet and pro-Israeli Democrats in opposition to the McGovern liberals. That year also saw the beginning of the neoconservative drift toward the Republican Party, whose leaders saw in recruitment of the neocons an opportunity to improve Republican status in the media and in academic circles...It was the Carter administration's foreign policy agenda, including its efforts to improve the relationship with the Soviets and to accommodate the national interests of the Palestinians, that accelerated the political transition of the neocons from the Democratic to the Republican Party. Carter did not bring any members of the CDM into his administration...
The CDM, with the help of neoconservative columnists like Krautharnmer and Safire and of the New Republic, was the driving force behind a coordinated effort to weaken public support for Carter. For example, Michael Ledeen...whose name would surface later as one of the instigators of the IranContra affair (a note here - he was the Mossad-CIA link during the Iran-Contra scandal, and the man who got convicted spy J Pollard his Department of the Navy job) wrote an article in the New Republic which revealed ties between the late Billy Carter, the president's alcoholic brother, and Libyan government officials...At the same time, members of the CDM and other neoconservatives played a leading role in shaping the agenda of the Reagan administration...In addition to Kirkpatrick, who got her job as US representative to the UN after an article she published in Commentary caught Reagan's interest, other neocons occupied top positions in the Reagan foreign policy team. One was Max Kampelman, a former aide to Humphrey who was appointed to the position of director of arms control, and who was later replaced by another neocon, Kenneth Adelman. Richard Perle became the assistant secretary of defense. Richard Pipes, a regular Commentary contributor, joined the National Security Council. Elliot Abrams served as assistant secretary of state for human rights and later as assistant secretary for hemispheric affairs, where he played an active role in the Iran-Contra affair...it was the end of the Cold War that spelled disaster to the neocons, now at risk of being deprived of their favorite enemy...Enter the Middle Eastern bogeyman. - neoconservative intellectuals have focused on the need for the US to confront the new transnational enemy from the East, radical Arab nationalism and Islamic "fundamentalism," or what Krauthammer termed the "global intifada." The operational implication of this type of reasoning is that the original intifada can be forgotten. The neocons' main antagonists in the successful effort to get the United States to start shooting in the campaign to contain Saddam were the so-called "paleoconservatives," such as Pat Buchanan and Joseph Sobran, who since the end of the Cold War had been advocating a less activist American foreign policy...Most US proponents of sanctions, whether liberal or conservative, feared that a war in which thousands of Arabs died at American hands would, in the long run, increasingly isolate Washington in the region. Ironically, the only way to prevent such negative results of the neocon agenda would be decisive efforts by the Bush administration to follow up the rollback of Saddam with an Israeli-Palestinian settlement based upon land for peace. It is just such efforts, however, that the neocons can be counted upon to oppose..."

That was 1991 - the neocons kept on trying, and got their big chance after the G W Bush victory and 9/11.
A few more details about the main characters:

<snipped, you'll have to read the rest here:http://neoconconjob.blogspot.com/ >


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An entire history to be found here: PNAC Links Archive

+++++

More here:

The spies who pushed for war
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic...

Matcom's Dad (Ex CIA) Weighs In On "SPIES WHO PUSHED FOR WAR"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic...

BFEE/PNAC Mob's sleazy "Office of Special Plans" exposed by Guardian
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic...


Plenty, plenty more in the archives.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:42 PM
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30. WOW! Tinoire nnice job!......bookmarked
:toast: :toast: :toast:
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:45 PM
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31. I agree...
I hope you don't mind...but I'm going to copy and paste the whole thing to CNN...please everyone do the same...let's email that to all the major networks...well...not Faux...they won't believe it...come on...let's mass email them on this...

I mean hell...CBS got over 400,000 emails from MoveOn.org about the commercial thing...

so we can make them pay attention by mass emailing them...

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?19
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:19 PM
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33. James Carville was tazlking about this on Crossfire about an article
in the Atlantic Monthly? send a copy to him too!..i will also..thanks for the cnn link
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 10:13 AM
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38. Just sent mine in. Why I did it , I don't know. frustration I guess
Corporate News Network is sooo obviously covering for the junta by chasing silly stories and pretending to want to "know" how this happened that it is clearly intentional misdirection.

They are helping to hide the truth. They don't want Murkins to know what happened.

Oh well. Made me feel better anyway.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 09:49 AM
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37. Thanks... Let me know if you what the formatted document in MS Word n/t
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:15 PM
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32. you know what's funny...
is that I made a post on another site about all this OSP and the Kay report and all's I got in return is one post with quotes about Saddam's WMD by Democrats during the Clinton administration...

:wtf:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:53 AM
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34. Hang in there ...timing is everything.
Keep working!!!

You'er doing great!!!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:32 PM
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35. kick,,,my link has been scrubbed but other have links to OSP
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:13 AM
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48. The site is still there
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 09:20 AM by berry
Your link was just missing a few letters. Here's the link:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/wot/iraq/office_of_special_plans.html

It's a great site--so don't give up on spreading it around!

I too am stunned that not one word about this OSP has been mentioned on regular news reports on the WMD intelligence problems. Not only on TV but in the WP and NYT articles yesterday on *'s plans to control any investigation. GRRR

ON EDIT: Hmm. My link looks the same as Elsewhere's Daughter's after I posted it. If you have problems, take a look at the link once it's in the window, and add "underline"s between the OSP words and be sure it's "html" at the end.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:20 AM
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36. Kick.
:dem:
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 10:20 AM
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39. Thank you. Now when will the godam talking heads realize this???
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 10:21 AM by Merlin
Why in the world arent ANY of the talking heads on TV talking about this obvious fact. We've known this since BEFORE the troops went in. It has been clear all along the OSP was mainlining bogus (Chalabi) data to the WH, giving Bush cover for his horrendous misleading of the American people. Yet I haven't heard anybody except Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich say so. What gives?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 11:15 AM
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40. And if businesses want a contract in Iraq the guy to see is
Salem Chalibi.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:29 AM
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42. keeping all related threads kicked
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:40 PM
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43. kick
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 04:46 AM
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44. Kick!
:kick:
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Thoth Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:03 AM
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45. My letter to the editor on this whole fiasco
I just sent the following to the major NH papers and a few other outlets. I plan to do one hard hitting letter per month in the period between now and the election.

---------------

It should be evident by now that the Bush administration lied to the nation in selling its war on Iraq. The administration cynically manipulated public fear and anger over 9-11 in its claims that Iraq was an imminent threat to the United States. Weapons of mass destruction were settled on as the rationale for the invasion, because "it was the one thing we could all agree on", Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said last summer.

The propaganda campaign of fear and lies was launched in the fall of 2002, because, as White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card put it, "you don't introduce new products in August". This deadly "product" has so far claimed the lives of over 500 American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqi conscripts and civilians, not to mention thousands more who were severely injured. The depleted uranium munitions and cluster bombs that we rained down will continue to kill and maim for years to come.

Blaming the intelligence agencies for this fiasco is absurd. Donald Rumsfeld set up an "Office of Special Plans" (OSP) in order to bypass the information coming from the CIA, because the CIA wasn't telling him what he wanted to hear. The OSP's conclusions were presented directly to the White House and National Security Agency without first being vetted by other intelligence agencies. Of course, this was barely mentioned in the mainstream media, which is nothing more than a propaganda mouthpiece for this secretive and dangerous regime and its allies in Congress.

I hope and pray that the American people have the wisdom to start taking their country back in November.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:32 AM
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46. execellent!...i'm doing the same...we must not let this be whitewashed!!
:yourock:
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:49 AM
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47. Here's Q playing devil's advocate again...
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 07:50 AM by Q
- Bush* has just 'ordered' a probe into 'failed intelligence' on Iraq. This of course means that the Bush* WH will CONTROL every aspect of the 'investigation'...just as they have with the 9-11 commission.

- The Bushies can count on their corporate media helping them frame the argument: Bush* was misled.

- What are the odds of the 'office of special plans' ever getting any play in an investigation controlled by the WH propaganda team? The answer to that question may well be: Who Outted Plame?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:24 AM
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49. yes of course bushco will try and Plame is the key...but i believe they
will fail to quell this ...it is way to insidious even for the most ardent of bush supporters...the writing is on the wall
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 01:26 PM
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50. bump n/t
n/t
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 01:30 PM
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51. Send a news tip to CNN. Ask why they are not covering the OSP story.
Send an OSP news tip to CNN here:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form11.html?1
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:54 PM
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52. Kick n/t
n/t
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