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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:02 AM
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"Belinda Stronach gave Paul Martin $55,000 for his leadership campaign,"
Jack Layton said this in Montreal yesterday. Is this a well known fact?

http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/story.asp?id=CA2D7BE4-FF98-47E4-A042-D68DF280FAC8
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:40 AM
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1. She'll make a good little...
Corporate lapdog. Ah, proto-fascists, they're so cute when they are young.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:42 AM
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2. This suggests a corporate subversion of Canadian Democracy
The person who wants to run against Martin was CEO of a company that helped finance his leadership bid. That really stinks.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:23 PM
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3. kickety
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:36 PM
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4. Her 15 minutes are almost up
It's clearly going to be Harper that Martin mops the floor with come the spring.

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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:37 PM
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5. If this is true, what the hell was she thinking? n/t
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:39 PM
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6. let's hope they aren't
This all wants more coverage, and keeping her newsworthy for a while might do that.

Just imagine what fun we might be having if Mike Harris had entered the race. Somebody might actually have gone on record about his estranged wife's sojourn in the women's shelter, we might have found out what she had on him that was a tad more dangerous and threatened to reveal, leading to his resignation from provincial politics in the first place ...

But cereally now, Stronach's underwriting of Martin ... well, most corporations do donate to both the Tories and the Liberals come election time. But donations for a leadership campaign in one party by a member of another? Yeah, kinda like the US ambassador somewhere making an election donation to one of the parties there. You'd even think that a political party might want to make sure that its leadership candidates' money wasn't coming from the opposition.

Well, maybe she wasn't actually a member of the Progressive Conservative Party at the time she bankrolled its future party leader MacKay. Maybe she just hadn't quite decided yet what party she supported ... after all, both Mike Harris (former Conservative Premier of Ontario) and David Peterson (former Liberal Premier of Ontario) are members of the board of directors of her union-busting Magna Corporation ...

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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:48 PM
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8. I don't know if you know the Kiwi poster who's here occasionally
can't remember the name, but s/he often mentions the attempted corporate takeover of the NZ govt by subversives within their Labour Party. The more I see Magna involved in Canadian politics, the more I worry about corporate intrusion in Ottawa.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:13 PM
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9. I've experienced it firsthand
Albeit at a very low level.

A few years after my own candidacies, our NDP riding association held a nomination meeting. A well-known associate of a neighbouring stupid and corrupt Liberal MP declared his intention to seek the nomination. We were dumbfounded. I mean, it wasn't even as if we had the proverbial snowball's chance of winning the riding. I guess it just looked like easy pickings and a way of making sure we had one fewer credible candidate in the region.

I appealed to a high-ranking Liberal Party official whom I knew personally: "um, <insert his name here>, off the record, can you tell me whether so-and-so is a member of your party?" (Party membership is confidential info.) He wasn't. But damn, he'd sure learned electioneering techniques from his MP bosom buddy. He arrived at the nomination meeting with a couple of hundred new party members from a couple of "ethnic" communities in tow, from whom my friend (and interpreter) learned that they had been advised by the candidate to illegally transfer their driver registrations into our riding, where they did not live (and accordingly could not have voted at the meeting). Shades of BC's Basi's Boys for Paul Martin. Our Liberal would-be NDP candidate lost anyhow.

A year later, another election. Guess who shows up wanting the Liberal nomination in yet another neighbouring riding. My Liberal acquaintance then called me: "um, <insert my name here>, off the record, can you tell me whether so-and-so is still a member of your party?" He wasn't.

There apparently wasn't any corporate or high-level Liberal involvement in that instance; it was just the lowest-level variety of crime and corruption.

Martin operates at a much higher level. You've visited that CBC site (or watched the program), right?

http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/030401_csl/introduction.html
http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/030401_csl/tax.html

Paul Martin’s dual role as Finance Minister and owner of Canada Steamships Lines has raised concerns of a potential for conflict of interest. Martin has always suggested he could keep his public duties separate from his private interests.

But when it came time to set corporate tax policy, it would inevitably have a direct effect on his company.

In 1992, a year before he became Finance Minister, CSL set up five companies in Liberia, Africa, a tax haven of choice in the offshore shipping business.

... In 1994, the new Finance Minister, Paul Martin, took action: “Certain Canadian corporations are not paying an appropriate level of tax,” Martin said in his budge<t> speech. “Accordingly, we are taking measures to prevent companies from using foreign affiliates to avoid paying Canadian taxes which are otherwise due.”

But Martin didn’t shut down all the tax havens. Across the Atlantic, he kept Barbados open, and that’s exactly where CSL went next.

... Canada Steamship Lines now has nine shell companies in Barbados, eight of them at a lawyer’s office near Bridgetown. They share the same mailbox and the same tax rate: about 2.5 percent.

... And just like Liberia, the companies can bring their profits back into Canada without paying Canadian tax. In the year 2000, the companies brought $1.5 billion dollars back into our country.

Oddly enough, Paul wouldn't give the CBC an interview "to discuss taxes and CSL". Let's hope they keep trying.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:42 PM
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7. Like the Montreal Gazette said yesterday, Layton has an opening
big enough to drive a truck through.

10-4, good buddy!
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