Bush is NOT a southerner.. He's a Northeasterner.. Let's USE that in ads

[SoCalDem]

Here's an ad idea

He's a Yankee, masquerading as a Texan.. They should use that in ads..


cue kiddie music:
* in prep school get up
* in his "military uniform" (as a young man)
* in his cheerleader suit
* in the baseball get up
* in his "ranch outfit"
* in the Chinese medallion jacket
* in a business suit
* in the flight suit
and finally in the clown suit with the corporate logos..


Voice over...

He tells us he's a Texan, but we all know how he likes to play "dress-up"..

He is from the Northeast...Connecticut and Maine, to be exact..

Do you want him playing pretend with our country for 4 more years??

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. That's great!

My husband, who is a sixth generation Texan, and his friends whose roots go back in Texas that far as well, call Bush a carpetbagger. Natalie Manes isn't the only Texan whose ashamed of the Chimp. BTW, I've heard he can't even ride a horse! Your ad idea is great! If CBS won't air it, Dick Durbin can blast them again!

[pmbryant]

2. I hope you don't run those ads outside the South ;-)

And if our nominee is a from the Northeast himself, I doubt they would be very effective.

Why play into this ridiculous notion that it's supposedly better, more authentic, for someone to be from Texas than from Connecticut?

:shrug:

--Peter

[NewJeffCT]

3. Well...

Bush plays himself as a down-home Southerner when he has Connecticut / New England roots and he prefers baseball over football.

[funkyflathead]

9. When did Bush move to Texas? n/t

[SoCalDem]

10. The Bush Family and Midland.. Lots at this link

here

and this one chronicles where he lived

http://www.midlandtxchamber.com/midland/start_files/bush/pages/homes.htm

[funkyflathead]

15. Thanx n/t

[SoCalDem]

5. I won't be running them anywhere.. I am poor folk

and yes.. they would have to be targeted to the southern states.. He never misses an opportunity to flaunt that "good ole boy..I'm a Texan" stuff.. and apparently from the callers we hear on c-span daily, the people in the geographic south think he IS from Texas..

It's odd too..

I have lived all over, and the people I have met who were born in the south still call themselves southerners, even if they have lived in California for 40 years.., yet people who move here from other places, give up the "from xxxx" stuff after five or 6 years..

I have never really seen the extreme "regionalism" from any other part of the counrty..

[YearOfTheLLama]

11. It's more about the phony-ism

Of course being from the South doesn't make you any better than being born anywhere else. The issue is more Bush's personality cult. The way he puts on this show of being from the South really bugs me. More important, though, is the way he pretends to be so righteous and ethical. I've read a lot about him, and while I don't believe all the stories, there's just too many of them all to be total lies. I don't condone of smear adds, but then I can't condone of personality cults either.

[leetrisck]

4. It's just that everything about bush is phony

He's much more at home at the Kennebunkport Compound and the wonderful boat than he is anywhere else - him clearing brush is about the funniest thing I've seen - and oh yeah, the segway - and don't forget how presidential he looked with Kofi Annan on the front page of the Chicago paper - the one the White House complained about. That should be run over and over saying "is this presidential"

[izzie]

24. Well I sure think he is East Coast. But I swear the other thing is this

It is the wimp thing. Some how these guy do not feel manly and I am not sure why. If they talk the talk they think they will be but they do not make it. Have you ever read the Hite Report? It is a funny report but I always think of that when I see these so called Texas people. Maybe you have to be as jaded as I am at my age, to think this way.

[anti-NAFTA]

6. disgusting ad proposal

Regionalist politics is bigoted in nature.

"Oh I like Edwards/Bush/Clark better than Kerry/Dean because the former is Southern and is for traditional American values whereas the latter is an educated snob who is for 'secularism' and France".

That's a stupid way of thinking. Unfortunately, many do think that way. Free trade doesn't discriminate whether a plant or factory is located in the south, west, midwest, or north. If it's American manufacturing, it's going to Mexico, Canada, China, and elsewhere.

One reason I can't stand Edwards is because of his anti-Northern speechifying.

[SoCalDem]

7. You are entitled to your opinion..

Lighten up :)

[anti-NAFTA]

13. No problem bro

It's a cool ad proposal, and it would work (people fall for the principled moral southerner over the intellectual rational northeasterner), but it's nonetheless counterproductive in the long run.

[mark0rama]

8. Like poppy, like son

Years ago, when Bush 41 was running for re-election, he once photo-opped by raising one foot and showing off a garish cowboy boot with a Texas flag and/or state outline emblazoned on the front.

The HBO series "Not Necessarily the News", showed this clip and immediately cut to their own, set-up shot from behind, showing that Bush was wearing a Top-sider-style boating shoe on his other foot.

Great sequence, showed off Poppy's faux-Texan posturing perfectly.

[SiobhanClancy]

12. They aren't from Maine....

They are "flatlanders",and "summer people"...objects of disdain to any self-respecting Mainer:)

[underpants]

14. How can you tell the Bush family entry at the Texas legis. chili cook-off?

It's the one with Maine Lobster in it.

-Molly Ivins

[SiobhanClancy]

16. lol...

That's funny:) Still,as a native of the great state of Maine....I still say Texas can have them.

[underpants]

17. Poppa and Barb's official residence was a hotel room in Houston

Look it up y'all.

[kskiska]

29. That's right

No one was quite sure just where they were from, except for their vacation home in Maine. I remember how when Poppy lost in '92, the press was wondering where they were going. They said they were moving "back" to Houston, building a house on a plot of land they lived there, but everyone questioned it because the plot was so small. Eventually, that's what they did. There were also reports on how afterreturning to private life, Bar was astounded that she could just dial up and have a pizza delivered! to their home. She had no idea.

[kskiska]

26. I'm from Connecticut (now in SC)

and we never claimed any of them, and don't want to start now. BTW, Poppy was born in Massachusetts, then lived in Greenwich. Bar is from Rye, NY, not far over the state line.

[Rockholm]

34. I'm in South Carolina (now in MA)

and Poppy's house is around the corner from me. They are all Yankees (except for Laura).

[kskiska]

32. I read where Poppy didn't even buy the place in Maine

until just before he became Ronnie's VP running mate (sort of like *'s buying the pig farm for the photo-ops). The house had been in the family, on the Walker side, but it's not the Bush family seat.

[Cronus Protagonist]

18. I think you'll like SNL's cartoon of *

They used almost exactly that idea. It's a 14 meg download, so go for it if you have the bandwidth.

http://cronus.com/images/SNL.12.13.03.BushTVfunhouse.mov

And if you do take a copy, please see if you can buy some buttons to help defray the bandwidth costs...

"FUCK Bush" Buttons, Stickers & Magnets

[SoCalDem]

20. For some reason .mov always "hangs up" on my computer..

I knew someone had to have thought of it before..darn !!

[Silverhair]

19. Bad Idea.

Trying to win by attacking trivial things like that make the attacker look desperate. People don't vote for desperate parties.

It make us look like we don't have real issues to talk about. Stick to the issues. People care about the issues. They don't give a damn about stuff like that.

[anti-NAFTA]

22. Actually the people do give a damn

Bush didn't almost-win the 2000 election because of his stand on the issues. He almost-won because a lot of people liked his Texan personality-whatever the fuck that means.

[Malva Zebrina]

21. Not a good idea

Kerry is a Northeasterner and so is Dean. So is Lieberman for that matter

It will backfire on them if either becomes the candidate.

[forgethell]

23. You guys have got it all

wrong: The South does not vote against Democrats because they are from the North, they vote against them because they are LIBERAL! They voted for Jimmy Carter and for Bill Clinton, even though they were LIBERAL, for TWO reasons: one, they were from the South; two, they disguised the fact that they were LIBERAL. Bill came up with the triangulation strategy. Jimmy Carter, I remember it well, would not say where he stood on a number of issues. There was also the Ford pardon of Nixon pulling the Repukes down in the South, and across the nation.

Joe Leiberman might get a few southern electoral votes, despite the fact that he is from the North, (damnyankee) and Jewish (those fundie bigots, you know, grow like fleas on a coon dog down here).

Now, I don't know how we can win the South, or any part of it, but I do know, it will be very hard, especially if Southerners feel that they are being condescended to by Yankees. Dean is dead in the South for his remarks about religion, in my opinion. Too bad, too. But most people down here would rather an honest atheist than an opportunistic convert.

We won't win by writing the South off, either. We COULD win on economic issues. I know a lot of people on this board think that if the South only knew what was good for them, they would vote Democratic and not worry about cultural and social issues. But that can be turned around, too. If we really wanted to win, we would give up on the social issues, gay marriage, multicullturalism, feminism, even the Iraq war. Whatever. We don't because these issues are important to us. So it is hypocritical to say that conservatives i general, and Southerners in particular, don't know what is important to them, either.

Well, I don't have the answer to this, maybe one of the candidates does, we will see in November.

[efhmc]

25. This Texan likes it but it's probably too clever for many.

[LeahMira]

27. Cute ad idea...

... but with all the serious problems the nation is facing, what's the point of picking at this particular issue? Play around with it a little to make the point that, as Michael Moore says, he's a fradulent president... someone who is really an evil traitor and not a "good man" at all... and you might have something.

[proud2BlibKansan]

28. He grew up in TX

and went to school in the east.

Why does it matter where he's from? He's an idiot in my book no matter what planet he came from.

[cms424]

30. That would be fine, except...

as a person from the Northeast, I wouldn't want to lay claim to him :)

[PsN2Wind]

31. I like that

"A Connecticut Cowboy with more cute outfits than the Village People".

[Betty]

33. I understand the logic behind this...

but why does everyone have to trash the Northeast? I love it here and am proud to be a transplanted New Englander. Especially when I see things like my home state, Ohio, making laws against gay marrriage. How embarrasing.

[Solomon]

35. There are some who believe that a Northeasterner will never again

be elected president. There hasn't been one since Kennedy.