O'Reilly just said "I want to kill Michael Moore"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

...and immediately said "that's a joke, of course."

He was talking to Rudy Guiliani, said Clark "killed himself" by refusing to take issue with Michael Moore's "Bush is a deserter" stance. Rudy said "desertion is an offense punishible by death for God's sake" and O'Reilly said "I want to kill Michael Moore."

I always have "subtitles" on the TV so I looked in shock after I heard it and there it was, IN PRINT.

[girl gone mad]

1. Disgusting. n/t

[Killarney]

2. Hmm...

maybe I shouldn't say what I'm thinking then.

I want to kill Bill O'Reilly.

Just kidding. O8)

[ComerPerro]

LOL but... but... that's hate speech

heh

[kalian]

3. Friggin reich-wingers....

what they actually say...they mean.
This idiot baffoon is dangerous...I wonder whether he's looking
to becoming the sole anchorman for the state controlled media...
:eyes:

[Terwilliger]

4. O'Reilly is an unbelieveable putz

but the American people suck so bad they support that ignominious twit, and he has a TV show

[Sam Lowry]

13. O'Reilly and Moore are cut from the same cloth

In my opinion. I'd like to kick both of their asses. Not shoot them, just kick 'em around for a while.

[rooboy]

16. I've never seen Moore run away from a debate...

and that's a very big difference, in my opinion.

[Terwilliger]

19. they are???

O'Reilly lies in order to further the reich-wing agenda in this country, and you say Moore and O'Reilly are the same????

[Sam Lowry]

29. they are both self-obsessed,

arrogant, loud-mouthed embarrassments to their respective sides. It's a question of temperament. I'd like to see them both get slapped silly.

[leesa]

40. I'm not embarrased by Moore. I think he has displayed a lot of courage

and has gotten the word of Bush's crimes out there. I don't like a few of the things he says (Opah for Prez? Jeesh!), but the bulk of it is great and timely.

[Terwilliger]

48. yeah, but O'Reilly has bullshit

he perpetuates Repuke policies, then says he's not a conservative

Moore is a liberal, and unapologetic about it, and when he makes an assertion or a statement, he backs up what he says.

They're not comparable.

[anti-NAFTA]

20. I lost respect for Moore

when he endorsed Clark. In Bowling for Columbine there's a little note about how America committed war crimes against Serbia, but what does Moore do next? endorse the man responsible for it. It smacks of selfishness as well as political cynicism.

[Terwilliger]

24. More than I blame Moore for having to make his choices...

I blame the system for giving us such a narrow range of possibilities to begin with

[anti-NAFTA]

26. I can understand that.

I wish I lived in France. A real republic.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

35. Um, France is banning Muslim women's headscarves in schools. ARGH.

[anti-NAFTA]

50. It's called secularism.

I don't like seeing people flaunt their religion in public institutions. Stop buying into the "France is racist" meme.

[Foehammer]

51. Hmmm nice Avatar

"I don't like seeing people flaunt their religion in public institutions."

[anti-NAFTA]

52. this is a privately owned message board. jackass.

[Terwilliger]

53. there is quite a difference between school or a court-house...

and the DemocraticUnderground online public forum

[GreyV]

46. war crimes?

America committed war crimes against Bosnia not Serbia by imposing weapons embargo on a country that was being invaded by a nation six times it's size.

I being somewhat of an expert on Balkans give you some facts...

1992 -- Start of Bosnian-Serb war --

Number of tanks and APCs:

Bosnia - 8 -
Serbia - 2100+ -

Artillery pieces:

Bosnia - 86 - (only 2 of which were 155mm howitzers)
Serbia - 17400+ -

Bosnia had no Air-force, no navy and no standing army. Just loose police force. What did we do? We imposed weapons embargo and doomed 280,000 Bosnians to death, by enabling the Serbs to commit the greatest mass murderer in Europe since WW2.

[0rganism]

41. I saw Michael Moore save a man's life

Go watch vol. 1 of "The Awful Truth" episodes if you don't believe me.

His documentary activism shamed an HMO into paying for a man's organ transplant.

When have you seen OhReally save anyone's life?

Same cloth my ass.

[K8-EEE]

44. I'm A Big Michael Moore Fan

I've run into him at a few film events (I don't know him but have introduced myself) and he is always so nice. His passion for justice and hatred for the scoundrels now in office comes from a very deep and genuine place, IMO. He will talk to anybody anywhere about getting GWB out!

[0rganism]

49. Have you watched the BFC 2nd dvd?

You know, the one with all the extra doodads that usually gets ignored?

On it, there's a part that shows him returning to the Denver area a year after the film came out. His interaction with locals at a book signing is incredibly compassionate. You can see his heart going out to the Columbine students who talk with him. It's very rare to see that from a human, let alone a celeb like Moore. And I don't think he's such a good actor that he could "fake it", either.

[dennis4868]

5. Rudy is an idiot....

he says that Desertion is punnishable by death for gods sake.....meaning that if someone kills another human being he should not be found guilty because it is punnishable by death for gods sake?

[Sam Lowry]

15. That wasn't his point

His point was that desertion is such a serious crime that it warrants the death penalty, and in his view it's ridiculous to accuse the pres. of a crime like that. In other words, he wasn't defending deserters.

[maggrwaggr]

23. Hm, it's ridiculous to say he commited a crime just because he's a prez?

even if he did indeed commit the crime?

I don't follow the logic here.

Bush deserted. Desertion is a crime punishable by death. Bush is President. Therefore to even bring up the fact that he deserted is silly?

What he's saying is this:

Bush is above the law because he's president.

[Arugula Latte]

32. In O'Lielly's little tiny pea brain

getting a few BJs in the Oval Office is punishable by death, but going AWOL 'cuz Poppy's a Republican bigwig is A-Okay.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

33. Oh yeah, O'Reilly played the Clinton card...

...although I dunno...running down the list of possible deferments because you do not want to go to war...regardless of any idealogical debate on that premise...IS NOT the same as having pappy get you into a nice, safe, cushy military assignment that guarantees you'll come home with both arms and legs attached and then NOT SHOWING UP.

How is it the same thing? Someone, please EXPLAIN it to me. O'Reilly understands why it's the same.

So O'Reilly falls back on the "he was honorably discharged" and "his commander said he was one of the best pilots EVER" crap and the long, long periods where * was simply NOT FRIGGING THERE (commonly known in the military as "AWOL") are OK because Clinton did not want to go to Vietnam, lots of rich kids got a free pass, and it's not right to accuse the president of something he actually DID?????

[k_blagburn]

37. Awol Orielly

Orielly wouldnt know AWOL from A**hole. Since he dodged the draft like cheney, frist, hastert, limbaugh, delay, ashcroft, etc.

[tkmorris]

31. What's ridiculous

Ridiculous is having a president who was a deserter. Ridiculous is refusing to see the truth when it's right in front of you.

[leesa]

42. I disagree. He's saying the Prez wasn't executed therefore he wasn't

guilty of the crime. Completely ignores the fact that his Daddy has bought his way out of all his jams throughout his entire life. In fact, I imagine GH Bush is quite busy right now scurrying around bribing folks to keep his little boy's crimes under wraps.

[brainwashed_youth]

54. slow down

Desertion is a serious crime and should be dealt with very harshly. Lay off Rudy, he was only saying what alot of peopel feel

[Bluzmann57]

6. Well billy

I don't want to kill you, but I would like to kick your ass. What a stupid thing to say by o'lielly. Just another stupid thing in a long line of them. on edit, I'm not joking either. I really would like to give him a beatdown.

[spanone]

7. He's now trying to prove that Hillary's book sales are faked

asshole is way to kind

[Stephanie]

22. That's a big clue that we should look at the truth about HIS sales

Projection is what they live by. If he's accusing Hillary, you KNOW that's what HE's doing.

[supercrash]

8. Ummm...

He also said he was joking..."that was a joke at Mr. Moore"

Is this the no spin zone ?

[kalian]

9. Nope...its the full throttle spin zone....

:puke:

I can't watch that guy...

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

11. I think he was a little high on himself tonight...

...if you noticed, he's back to calling Al Franken by his proper name, not "Stuart Smalley," and earlier in the show essentially said that the Democratic party would destroy itself if it didn't let go of the Bush AWOL thread. "All of the rich guys who wanted to got out of it" was his dismissal for any improprieties by *.

Rudy said the Democratic candidate this year is somewhat of a non sequitir because Bush is going to get re-elected, no one is going to want to change horses in midstream since Bush is protecting us from terra and the economy is doing so well.

I think, given the momentum of tonight's show, the blood rushed to Bill's little head and he let it do the talking...caught himself a minute too late...and that's when he back-pedaled.

[Maccagirl]

17. "All the rich guys who wanted to got out of it..."

Tell that to Oliver Stone and John Kerry.

I can't wait to hear Michael Moore's reply on his website to O'Reilly's latest outrage.

[Skittles]

10. didn't he say he wanted to shoot Al Franken "between the head" ???

nice way to handle dissent, you fascist asshole

[ComerPerro]

12. Yeah, that's one of Franken's favorite lines

I mean, "between the head"?

LOL

:wtf: does that mean???????

[number6]

14. number6 " I just want to pound O'Really!'s ass into the ground"

"that's a joke, of course." ;) :smoke:

[salinen]

21. I would giggle

if I saw O'reilley being sodomized with a mondey wrench.

Oh, and yeah, I'm just kiddin around.

[Democat]

18. He wants to kill Moore for selling so many more books than right wingers

I bet Ann Coulter would like to kill Michael Moore too. Both her and O'Reilly got their asses kicked by Moore's sales numbers.

[liberal72]

25. Book sells

does anyone have the numbers of moore's book sells?

[if it comes from the whitehouse it must be true]

27. Rudy also said about chimp

"The american people (voters) always want to stay with the one who brung them (in time of turmoil and war) and reject change" (bush re-elected)

O BROTHER!!

[gate of the sun]

28. he's a pig

and he has twarted the public view with his lies...certainly people are responsible for what they consume and believe.....What a terrible man.

[AlFrankenFan]

30. Doesn't surprise me

So O'Reilly. He's too much of a coward to kill a man.

[stewert]

34. O'Reilly Does This a Lot........

O'Reilly also said he would kill Al Franken if we were back in the wild west
days.

He said he would kill Drudge.

Now he says he would like to kill Michael Moore.

It seems that he just wants to kill everyone who disagrees with him.

[Liberal_Dog]

36. "Those Who Trespass"

I always thought that book was a product of O'Reilly's secret fantasies.

[leesa]

38. It's not even a deniable fact. He was supposed to be present and

he wasn't. How long can they play this idiotic denial game. They look like fools.

[DevinDNC]

39. O'Reilly is to big a coward to do anything

O'Reilly has proven time and again to be a coward and a phony. Moore is right Bush is a cowardly deserter, who hid under is blanket, while REAL Americans like Kerry and Clark fought and shed nlood in Vietnam. As a 24 year old former Marine, I find Bush to be a traitor.
And O'Reilly is a coward and a shame on the Irish race.

[bagnana]

43. He's so full of tough talk

but avoided military service himself. What a joke.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

45. Funny you should mention that...here's BuzzFlash on:

"Vietnam and the Bill O'Reilly Nothing But Spin Zone"

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/01/010702_Vietnam_and_OReilly.html

"O'Reilly spent his junior year, 1969-1970 at the University of London. The previous year, 1968, Bill Clinton had entered Oxford. So in the heat of the Vietnam war and its greatest battles, we find Bill O'Reilly and Bill Clinton as college students in England."

A nice chronology of how Bill stayed one step ahead of his local draft board.

[K8-EEE]

47. I Have ZERO Respect For O'Reilly

He's such a coward. And even less for those who buy his act.

[Moderator]

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