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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:15 PM
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When McCain is tapped to replace Cheney should we replay comments
made about him during the SC Primary by the Bushbots? McCain is considered honorable and reliable by (most) Americans. He will give Busah* the integrity that Bush* Cabal doesn't possess. Should we use the words of the GOP against McCain or try to keep it about issues? This is the juggernaut we must fear. Bush*/McCain in 2004. Let's start planning for it now.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:18 PM
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1. I don't see how McCain could be on the ticket
After accepting appointment to the committee investigating the "intelligence failures.'

And I don't think Cheney will be dumped anyway, unless he is indicted by the Plame grand jury, and that's a long shot.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:18 PM
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2. It's no juggernaut
and I can't imagine it happening. Bush's base hates McCain, and there's no way McCain can serve on the Intel panel while running with Bush. Plus, I don't even think McCain likes Bush very much.

No, there won't be a VP McCain
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:18 PM
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3. So Why don't we Pick McCain
Two war heroes!
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:19 PM
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6. Because he's a right wing weasel
.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:24 PM
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9. He is but
He hates Bush!
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:20 PM
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7. Is glorifying war more important than Democratic ideals?
McCain is a Republican and quite right-wing about it also.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:26 PM
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10. Playing like Rove
I know he is a Pub, I was thinking like Rove.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:19 PM
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4. LOL. This ain't going to happen.
McCain's appointment to this "independent" intelligence commission should demonstrate this. McCain won't exactly be "independent" if he is the VP on the Bush ticket.

Of course, he is not totally independent now either, but at least the image is there.

--Peter
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:19 PM
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5. I highly doubt McCain would serve as (*)'s
VP. I think it might be his tendency to have skin cancer, and I know he has battled it in the last 18mos.

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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:21 PM
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8. I want to see *Bush resign just like Nixon did, on Faux n/t
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NeonLX Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:36 PM
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12. No, I want to see him dragged out in shackles and chains...
With a big burly officer prodding him along with the tip of a rifle. On all major networks.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:30 PM
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11. Get ready for Bush/McCain '04.
Sure McCain hates him. But he just has to cool his heels for 4 years - and then he grabs the brass ring.

McCain has shown time and time again that he is a soldier for the party - despite the smears and dirty tricks they pulled on him.

McCain's role on the "commission" is irrelevant. They will use him however they see fit, whenever they see fit.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:43 PM
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13. Remember Bush/Quayle?
Many GOPers wanted Dan Quayle off the ticket in '92, but so-called "Bush loyalty" prevented it. As I recall, the Bush campaign made it clear that George the Elected would not replace Quayle, even if to do so would help with poll numbers. This gave Bush I an air of "respectability;" as if Bush integrity and loyalty were more important than politics (not to mention incurring the wrath of the right wingers if Quayle got the boot). Of course, we all know how that turned out.

Couldn't the same thing be said of this change if it were to happen? Perhaps reminding voters about Bush the Elected's decision and contrasting it with the present predicament of Bush the Unelected, even if Cheney were to leave voluntarily and be replaced by McCain, would do more harm than good for the Bushistas. I would think ANY scenario where Cheney is replaced would reflect poorly on BushBaby; as if the Bushistas were saying "We're sacrificing one of our own because we're in deep shit and think this will help BushBaby get re/elected."

A few points to consider: how did Cheney wind up on the ticket in the first place? He was given the task to find a VP candidate for BushBaby. He chose himself, and BushBaby went along with it. This is SOOO transparent, and can be countered in several ways: BushBaby should be asked why he went along with Cheney for VP in the first place; define Cheney's departure as a desertion; highlight that Cheney, the No. 2 man, is abandoning the US troops in time of war.

I do agree that Bush/McCain could be problematic (emphasize the bad blood between them: Will they work well together? Does one really trust the other?), but with all the crap going on, any change at the top could be viewed as desperation politics. Remember, the sagging poll numbers are reflective of BUSH, not Cheney.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:47 PM
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14. How about Bush (Jr.) /Quayle?
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 03:47 PM by Cat Atomic
I can see the stickers now... "Bush/Quayle '04- Two half-wits make a full wit"
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:57 PM
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15. Yeah, they can recycle the old unused bumper stickers...
Bush/Quayle '92 '04
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:57 PM
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16. McCain won't be Chosen
The Fundies hate McCain. Pat Robertson would call for hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, etc.

McCain would also outshine Shrub, because he knows the English language, & I don't think he would hide in a cave.

Actually, McCain & Kerry are really close, & if Kerry is elected, I'm betting McCain would be Sec of Defense. Kerry has already mentioned it is a possibility.
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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:17 PM
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17. if bush goes down, mccain will run.
watch.
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