Taeger
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Fri Feb-06-04 05:57 PM
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Gore spoke the truth at "New American University".
CNN is calling it a "tirade". He's moving "to the left".
His message, Bush is like Nixon. He has subordinated EVERYTHING to his need for re-election. The Republicans are now a shill for the Radical Right.
Analysts say that Gore is now "irrelevant". He is "shifting with the wind".
What a bunch of goobers. Gore's speech was very moderate in tone considering what we are talking about here. It was nothing compared to what Republican politicians IN POWER said about Clinton (all false).
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:00 PM
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1. President Gore was right on the money |
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and I wish he would have yelled like this in 2000 when bU$sh stole the election.
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Malva Zebrina
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:02 PM
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2. Like him , but too little, too late |
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I wish the best for him and for his lovely family, but I do think he is now really irrelevant. It is over for Gore.
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:04 PM
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Al will come back in some capacity. He is too valuable and has too many admirers to just fade into the sunset.
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:05 PM
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The man has become the voice of the party, detached from the day to day politics and free to speak out against the tyrany that has already begun in our country. Who else has had and continues to have the guts to stand up and tell the truth about the goings on in our country.
There are few finer men in this country and I will support him completely here and anywhere else I see his good name demeaned, as you have just done.
Thom
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:15 PM
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demeaned him. What is the matter with you? Can't you read?
I just think Al Gore, as lovely as he is and as lovable as he is, is past his prime. I like him, I love him and I love Tipper. but, he is past it now. Gore is an asterisk . I would love to see him regenerate in politics, but I do not think he has it left in him. Right now, he has nothing to contribure much to the energy of the campaign against Bush.
He backed Dean. Dean is also a good man, but is losing and slipping.
Gore had better stick to teaching journalism rather than get involved in today's politics. He just is too sincere.
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:25 PM
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9. Beg to differ on your view of Gore ... |
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Marianne,
I beg to differ on Gore. Gore crushed all dems in every poll he was placed in during 2003. And he matched up better against Bush than any other dem - in every, single, poll.
I think that Gore could give Kerry another month's worth of victories, jump in the race and absolutely crush him. I know you like Gore - but please do not underestimate him.
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:10 PM
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but I notice your sentences refer to Gore in the past tense.
Let us not make an urban legend out of Al Gore.
He is a man who once was a vice president and once ran for president and lost because he was out arroganced and out bullied and probably gypped out of his rightful win, and is now in the postion of trying to make a living for the rest of his life. That he did not challenge Bush further at the time, opened the door to a Bush arrogance that went on for three years hence.
I just do not think he is relevant to today's politics, as much as I like him and make a point to watch him speak.
I don't know where he will end up, but right now, he is not involved much in this current race.
Neither is Clinton for that matter.
Let us leave both of them outside of this for the present time.
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:08 PM
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7. agree on TLTL, but..... |
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I think he can be quite valuable in a VERY important aspect of the campaign (along with Tipper)
getting out the voters who DON'T vote
he and his wife, IMO, can help a LOT with the SIXTEEN MILLION unregistered women voters!
SIXTEEN MILLION!
wait a minute, I have a thread on that
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:36 PM
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11. I could not disagree .... |
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more with you. He is the only one speaking the way most of us are thinking. and saying more than all the other candidates. This man will never be irrelevant, He will go down in history as having his presidency stolen from him by this group of neocons. 2000 was definitely what michael moore called a coup. The man deserves respect. I know I will get some flack for what I'm saying about gore. most here seem anti gore. but in the beginning this forum was pro gore. He can speak out as much as he wants, and people should listen because he makes alot of sense and and speaks the truth.
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:06 PM
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5. Pay no mind to what the purveyors of Imperial Pravda say |
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In fact, it would behoove you to believe the OPPOSITE of whatever the Imperial Media Whores say.
It is THEY who are irrelevant to everything except why Imperial Subjects of Amerika know NOTHING about the world around them.
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:08 PM
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6. The UN was "irrelevant" too |
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And now even Dubya is looking around in the wind for help.
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:45 PM
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12. Remember how over and over Gore was ridiculed for "risky proposition"? |
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Well,well four years later and whatda you know. Gore was right on every damn one of those risky propositions.
Gore was painted as an idiot,turns out he was a genius.
David
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Fri Feb-06-04 07:45 PM
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I like Gore and I do seriously believe he is the rightful President f the United States. BUT, given the current social milieu, he's pretty irrelevant. Why does everyone seem to get so excited about it? Why does CNN feel it necessary to comment at all? Why do the repubs feel it necessary to drone on and on about him? Seems kind of wierd, as though they somehow still feel threatened by him.
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Fri Feb-06-04 09:07 PM
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22. You answered yourself.... |
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they are sooooo afraid of gore. they know he won in 2000, and would have crushed bush in 2004, if it hadn't been for gores own party , who made him feel unwelcomed.
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Fri Feb-06-04 08:15 PM
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14. Oh my God, Gore's moving to the left! Curiously to media whores, |
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it must not matter a diddley damn how far to the extreme right, how far off the bell curve how corporatist, how totalitarian, how theological, how police state this present government gets. How mendacious, how disingenious, how reichous, how ludicrous can the media whores get?
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Fri Feb-06-04 08:23 PM
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How many Dems spoke out against the illegal invasion of Iraq before the attack? Al Gore had the stones to do so. Most of the Dems were cowed by the Neo Fascists.
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Fri Feb-06-04 08:26 PM
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16. Irrelevant! I hate that word. Can't agree. |
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Gore is a scholar and an honorable politician.
He is young. He is needed. He will fulfill a role for his country that will be uncontested for its value.
Long live the President!
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Fri Feb-06-04 08:41 PM
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17. i love, admire and respect |
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al gore more than any other politician alive.
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Fri Feb-06-04 08:54 PM
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18. "Irrelevant?" "Past his prime?" |
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I guess that means we better put Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Jimmy Carter, and George McGovern out to pasture. All of these men -- in their own way -- have spoken out against this abominable administration. And thank god, they did.
No, they're not irrelevant; but some of the posters on this board are becoming so with their short-sighted views.
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Fri Feb-06-04 09:05 PM
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21. some are just realists |
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let us not make a mythological character out of Gore.
Byrd is still involved in politics, being a long, long tern elected Senator. WE see him speaking often on matters of state and he has a mandate to do so. Kennedy, likewise. Carter is a Nobel prize winner and not irrelevant to certain propostions when it comes to making comments, but is not really making comments at this point on anything Bush is doing-he is not in the mainststream of today's political climate and is irrelevant also as far as that is concerned. AS far as human being NONE are irrelevant!
McGovern? I have not read or heard of much from him at all.
Gore? I love him, but it is true. He is irrelevant in this campaign and so is Clinton. They have nOTHING to do with it. No influence , no name, no policies to contribute--they are relegated to the sidelines to making comments from the peanut galery.
This is NOT saying they, any one of them , are irrelevant as human beings, or based on their past political experience. Simply put, they have nothing to say or do with this recent and upcoming election.
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Fri Feb-06-04 09:02 PM
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19. If Gore had decided to run this year |
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the nomination would have been his for the asking and we'd all be totally focused on ousting the chimp and giving Gore the keys to the WH stolen from him four years ago. I respect his decision, but it's lead to a hell of a messy primary season and a lot of infighting that will fester into the fall.
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Fri Feb-06-04 09:03 PM
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Somehow, anything you say about a republican that can be documented by evidence and facts is still a "wild accusation"...
And anything to the left of, well, Bush, is considered "left wing".
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