Did Bush knock up a girl and drive her to an abortion clinic?

[ringmastery]

I think this is a lot more juicy than him going AWOL, especially to the repuke base.

I remember this allegation in 2000 but it wasn't followed up.

[molly]

1. I've heard that several times

[slappypan]

2. It won't matter to them

You could have solid proof, and they just would not care, because "That was a long time ago before he found Jesus, he's a different man now."

[9215]

3. link please

[Maddy McCall]

13. Here's the link:

http://www.bartcop.com/bushabortion.htm

In the winter of 1971 George W. Bush was dating a woman named Robin Lowman
(now Robin Garner). Miss Lowman became pregnant by Bush and he arranged for
her to have an abortion - which in the great state of Texas in 1971 was very illegal!
Not to mention that George W. is running as a pro-life candidate for the presidency.

The unnamed source of this story, was a friend of Robin Lowman's and the girlfriend
of the man who arranged the abortion. His name is Robert Carl Chandler. Chandler is
a Bush friend and supporter from way back and he made the arrangements for Miss
Lowman's abortion at the Twelve Oaks Hospital in Houston, TX (now the Bayou City
Medical Center). The source overheard the call by Mr. Chandler to arrange the abortion
and the source visited Robin Lowman at the Twelve Oaks Hospital after the procedure.

The source meanwhile, is afraid of coming forward, saying that she was threatened by
Chandler and another Bush friend and supporter named Jim Bath. Bath has longstanding
intelligence connections, and played a role in the BCCI scandal. Robin Lowman
(now Garner) is married to Jerry Lee Garner who is an FBI agent.

So, that's the story: an illegal back room abortion arranged by the
Republican party Presidential candidate who is running on a pro-life ticket.

[rucky]

34. Holy Cow! And Bartcop actually NAMES SOURCES.

unlike some huckster scandalmongers I know.

[NicoleM]

4. RNC is all over this.

They've already put out a statement saying that the Dems might try to start a rumor that W knocked a girl up and got her an illegal abortion. Without proof, it goes nowhere.

[GRClarkesq]

9. The Moby comments?

[foxglove1]

5. There weren't any abortion clinics back then

The incident I remember hearing about was before Roe v. Wade, abortion was illegal at the time ...

Sue

[bushisanidiot]

6. There will be no evidence found because there will be no exgirlfriend's

body found. i'm sure that was covered up long, long ago.. probably to protect AWOL Sr. from the scandal since his career in the CIA was far more important than chimpy jr.'s.

[DaBigJagov]

7. Why the slime??

We need to take the high ground on these types of rumours. The focus NEEDS to be on the Bush Administration's horrible policy decisions rather than the silly business of character assassination. These type of things tend to backfire anyway, because all the other side will scream (as usual) is : "What about Clinton ???", and that reply brings up a much worse response from the American street. Let's focus on the 'hard facts' that will defeat Bush in 2004.

[ringmastery]

11. so we let them slime us

and don't fight back?

Dukakis took the abuse and well you know what happened to him...

We can't be weak. We have to fight fire with fire. Everything is on the table.

[DaBigJagov]

17. I understand, but......

....surely by now, you are aware of Bush's 'Teflon' quality, that is , the way these type of things never seem to stick, and we take the fallout as being mean and petty. It just seems to me that 'fighting fire with fire' as you say, is a losing proposition, and (you're right), there IS too much at stake to waste time on what may be a baseless rumour.

[papau]

16. I agree -high ground -and girl still loves Bush - BUT SHE WAS 15 - aborted

Doesn't GOP rape matter?

or are all the sources giving her story on the net incorrect about her age?

[DaBigJagov]

20. I don't know what you mean...

....about rape, and honestly this is the first I've EVER heard this story.

[Maddy McCall]

29. If Bush was over 18 and she was 15, that is statutory rape

[GRClarkesq]

8. Story never took off

I have never seen enough info to judge the credibility of such a story. The rumor was that the woman in question is not talking.

Double whammy for Bush if true:

So much for pro-life credentials
Abortion was illegal in Texas

[Adams Wulff]

10. IIRC... this was also reported about Bob Barr...

and helped to get him out of DC

on edit: I've been up all night and can't spell anymore

[Mistress Quickly]

26. Bob Barr's ego got Bob Barr out of DC

He moved to a new district because he thought he could beat the Republican incumbent there, and ended up losing the primary. I think it was against John Linder.

That a the gun going off in someone's house "By accident"

But I'll give Bob Barr this much: he is very anti-Patriot act and is working with the ACLU on the issue. On that one issue he is on our side.

Too bad he doesn't see the War on Drugs in the same abuse-of-civil-liberties light.


Back to your program in progress, sorry for the sidetrack.

[Maddy McCall]

28. The woman produced a receipt that showed Barr paid for procedure

[Mistress Quickly]

31. ahhh,

well then, another nail in the coffin.


He's still strong on anti-Patriot act, though. I am going to give him that, because at this point any help against * is good help.

[stoystown]

12. Yes he did.

There is as much evidence of this story as there was for WMDs in Iraq, so I completely believe it.

[Maddy McCall]

14. Bartcop reported it. See post number 13

[DemNoir]

15. He drove her there, really?

I didn't think he was that classy.

[papau]

18. And he paid - class - and hooked her up with current CIA husband

She thinks Bush is the greatest.

And a CIA employed husband scares away all interviews

[Devlzown]

23. He was probably drunk when he drove her there.

eom

[dsc]

19. While I don't like your terminology

in that you both make the woman into a passive being and take away her womanhood, I do think the story, if true, would be highly relevant given Bush's stand on abortion.

[Fridays Child]

21. A funny thing about that story...

Tammy Phillips, the woman in question, supposedly co-owned a gym in Carrollton, TX, at the time. In a possibly related development, this announcement was made just last month:

Press Release Source: Weight Loss Forever International, Inc.

Tammy Phillips Fitness Joins Ranks of Weight Loss Forever
Tuesday January 27, 6:15 am ET

HEATHROW, Fla., Jan. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Weight Loss Forever International, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: WFLI - News) today announced the formation of Tammy Phillips Fitness Group LLC, which acquired 100% of Tammy Phillip Fitness Boot Camps, including all intellectual properties, programs, company trademarks, logos and other copyrighted materials. Tammy Phillips and WLFI will each own 50% of the new company. WLFI will be the owner of all franchising rights. Now in its fourth year of operation, the Tammy Phillips Boot Camp program has graduated over 5,000 recruits, mostly in Virginia. There are currently five franchises conducting 6-8 classes a day, with a 92% customer renewal record.

-snip-

Tammy Phillips, a former personal trainer and sports conditioner, nutritionist, yoga and pilates instructor, strength and rehabilitation coach, and founder and President of Tammy Phillips' Boot Camps echoed the same content saying, "This partnership can give the company instant national visibility. The depth and reach of the WLFI organization affords us a new array of tactical options for expanding our franchise territories." Phillips' driving mental motivation, and dedication to living life in top physical condition have been the inspiration for most of the boot camp's participants to succeed.

The rest of the press release is at http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040127/fltu019a_1.html

Is this a different Tammy Phillips? I have no idea. At the very least though it's a stunning coincidence.

Here are a few paragraphs from the 2000 Enquirer story:

But with less than a year to go to the 2000 election, the first big sexual broadside has been fired at the Bush bandwagon by 35-year-old Tammy Phillips, a partner in a gym in Carrollton, Tex.

As an ENQUIRER team looked into her bombshell claims, we learned that Tammy is a former stripper, who began dancing in clubs when she was only 14. She claims she was introduced to Gov. Bush by her uncle, a prominent Republican, in early December 1997 during a political function at a hotel in Midland, Tex.

"I was wearing a tiny miniskirt -- and it was instant combustion," she told The ENQUIRER.

Tammy alleges that she and Gov. Bush made passionate love that very day before leaving the hotel.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories/news.cfm?instanceid=5978

[Maddy McCall]

24. See post number 13

Name was Robin Lowman, now Robin Garner.

Or are there more than one???

[Fridays Child]

Oops! I mixed her up with the b*sh-stripper affair story! Still...

You're right. Robin Lowman had the abortion in the seventies. Tammy Phillips was his paramour from the late nineties.

It is interesting to me, though, that a person of the same name and in the same industry as b*sh's alleged mistress developed her own fitness center chain and has, now, merged with another chain. If it is the same woman, you have to wonder who bankrolled her.

[papau]

33. Robin Lowman of Bush abortion fame - I thought we couldn't say name?

I wonder if Drudge will pick up on her name now that it is posted in DU?

It seems better "sourced" than most of his items!

:-)

[GRClarkesq]

27. The abortion story is set in the early 70s

so this must be a different story line.

[Maddy McCall]

22. Please NOTE THIS: There were NO ABORTION CLINICS IN TEXAS

Bush used family connections to arrange the illegal procedure in a TEXAS HOSPITAL.

[YouMustBeKiddingMe]

25. Now THAT would be a story

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[dpbrown]

32. This is better than talking about Kerry

Slime Bush, not Democrats.

[Rose Siding]

35. There are also questions about a previously broken engagement

Coincidentally, I just posted this article which asks why the '67 engagement was broken:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1117656

snip>
As for George W. Bush, the son of a future president and a future presidential contender himself, was still in his Big Man on Campus stage at Yale as president of Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity.

Father George had just graduated from the oil business to Congress, having defeated District Attorney Frank Briscoe for the job. Barbara had not yet become 'Bar,' the white-haired mother of the nation. The heaviest title in the family still belonged to former Connecticut senator Prescott Bush.

The announced marriage does seem puzzling, since by all accounts Bush was a wild and crazy party guy at Yale whose carousing, according to friends, continued well into his thirties before he settled down with his wife, Laura, and gave up boozing.