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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:21 AM
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Ready for the GOP Smear Machine to Kick into Action?
- Some Democrats may think they have Bush* up against the ropes on several issues...but they should keep on their guard and expect an onslaught of anti-Democratic rhetoric and a surge of pro-Bush* propaganda in the American media.

- As we approach the 2004 election...keep in mind that the Bushies will do literally anything to stay in power. They will use character assassination and dirty politics while accusing their opponents of 'trolling for trash'. (Projection)

- Democrats MUST not try to approach this election like they did in 2000 by giving the Bushies the benefit of doubt. Those in power got there through illegal / devious means and they're not above breaking the law again to keep what they have stolen.

- Like in 2000...Bush* won't have to get his own hands dirty...depending on the dozens of RWing Talking Heads and the GOP Smear Machine to spread vicious rumors and lies about anyone on the left who gets in their way.

- This time we're going to have to fight for Democracy. It's up to us.
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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:27 AM
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1. It's up to us....
And the Democratic party is telling half of us (the real liberals) to sit down and shut up.

2004 will be just like 2002 - the left will be slaughtered. John Kerry will be a re-run of Max Cleland, with Cleland standing by his side.


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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:48 AM
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7. Don't listen when people tell you to 'shut up'...
...As an American...you have every right (and duty) to speak out or give your opinion.

- It doesn't have to be a 'slaughter'...especially if we continue to fight back against the attackers.
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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:21 AM
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16. When you have no voice, you can fulfill your 'duty' all day long
and have no impact.

Even here, at DU, we'll be told to sit down and shut up soon. The discussion we're having right now won't be allowed. Our voices will be silenced.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:29 AM
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2. any bush campaign is filthy - they have a real
thing for white candidates having black babies. Present bush was responsible for the "clinton has a black baby" in bush1 election. Of course that's just the tip of the iceberg for them
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:34 AM
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3. Bring It On
Remember the last one? bush claimed tapes stolen....tried to make Gore to be a liar?

Now its bush who is the liar...fake Made in China backdrops....somewhere an article of members of his party dressed like real "workers"(can't find that article) Fake turkey....

Don't like lawyers...but hired them to fight the voters of my state.....used a lawyer to sue an insurance co for an auto accident over a rental car....

hes a 2 faced BOLD liar ....let the smear begin!!!
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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:39 AM
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4. And in 2002, this mattered how?
They kicked our asses WITH ALL THIS in the picture.

The Democratic party better wake the hell up! NOW!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:40 AM
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5. That's what I've been saying
but nobody seems to remember the night this place was just to collectively hang itself, and was arguing over the wording of the suicide note in Justice/Public Safety.

We got our asses handed to us in 2002, after spending months yammering on about how the election was in the bag for us :eyes:
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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:44 AM
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6. And they all try to pretend it never happened
Setting the citizens up for a repeat.

Compare the images:

Max Cleland/Saxby Chambliss

John Kerry/George Bush

Chambliss is the Senator, not Cleland.......we're headed for a re-run of 2002 because of the Democratic party.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:53 AM
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8. But many of us have learned to fight back...
...Just look at how much damage the AWOL issue has caused for Bush*. This is because WE and a few in the media won't let it drop until the whole truth is known.

- We need to take this same approach on the decidedly more important issues of 9-11 and the Bush* lies that drove this nation into unnecessary war.
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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:55 AM
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9. AWOL is just a diversion from the REAL issues
Look who brought AWOL back to the forefront - McAwful. For the simple purpose of getting the REAL issues out of the headlines - the 911 Commission, the Iraq "investigation," Halliburton, all the things which SHOULD matter.

AWOL is being discussed by "permission" - nothing more.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:00 AM
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10. I agree that AWOL is little more than a distraction...
...although it may have discredited Bush* in the eyes of many in the military.

- But our biggest problem seems to be Bush's* use of NATIONALISM to prevent certain subjects from being discussed in an open forum. He veils everything in secrecy and says he can't talk about it for 'reasons of national security'.

- Our party can't be part of this false patriotism BS. Bush* is encouraging war profiteering and has absolutely no evidence that America is 'safer' because he's in charge.
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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:15 AM
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13. But our party HAS been part of it
Our party can't be part of this false patriotism BS. Bush* is encouraging war profiteering and has absolutely no evidence that America is 'safer' because he's in charge.

Hell, the presumed candidate voted FOR every piece of legislation enshrining the patriotism BS in law.

Do you honestly think they won't play the "well, you voted FOR it" ploy?

Do you honestly think they won't play the "he votes WITH the (p)resident so why not go for a REAL republican instead of the fake one" ploy?

Like I said, a re-run of the Chambliss/Cleland campaign. It worked then, it will work in 2004.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:07 AM
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11. Ed "I don't speak for the President" Gillespie is a dork
Period.
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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:11 AM
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12. Watch it happen - the setup is in place
Let's not forget what has been happening all week. Scott McClellan, the (p)resident's spokesman, has been telling the press all week - "ask the campaign those questions, we won't talk about the election here" and then, here comes Gillespie saying "I don't speak for the (p)resident."

In other words, NO ONE is going to discuss it. Mission accomplished. Diversion over. Press whores declare "no story."

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:16 AM
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14. Definitely a pattern...
...and a repeat of the 2000 campaign/election. Bush* is insulated by so many layers that he never has to answer for his actions or his own words.

- We have had nearly four years of warnings and ample time for preparation. If the Bushies are able to successfully attack us this time without rebuttal...then perhaps we 'deserve' to lose?

- We have to fight the good fight...or expect another four years of the worse president in American history.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 11:14 AM
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19. VERY VERY good point
I hadn't made that connection yet. I will watch that unfold now Sad.


They aren't going to answer anything. I don't think it will work, W has to go out to the people he can't run for POTUS from the Oval Office and Dick has to come out he can't just speak at AEI.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:20 AM
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15. We need to start
pounding them about corporate greed.
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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:23 AM
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18. McAwful will NEVER allow that discussion
Never!

Don't ever forget that it is corporate America who pulls the DLC/DNC strings as well.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 11:21 AM
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20. Ed was a lobbyist for Enron
anyone got a spare ten foot pole?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:22 AM
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17. Yes
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 11:32 AM
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21. We've got loads...
to counterpunch with.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 01:28 PM
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22. I guess this isn't a real popular message...
...for Democrats. They must know they're going to get their asses kicked again...but few within the party machine are organizing any kind of counter attack.

- Perhaps it WILL take another Bush* 'win' before we all come together and kick their asses right back?
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