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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:13 PM
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Bush* has ultimate campaign tool: War
Think about it. He can instantly control the pulse of this nation by entering, provoking or with his policy of pre-emption, starting a war at any moment. From 9/11 we know that the nation rallys around a sitting president in times of great strife. These guys will not give up the kingdom without a fight.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:14 PM
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1. It didn't help LBJ much.
Hey, hey, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today? Remember that?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:16 PM
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2. he declined to run for another term.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:24 PM
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8. Because he couldn't win. (n/t)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:17 PM
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4. Just happen to be old enough, dammit.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:17 PM
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3. yes, he has the ability to control events
and control information.

Which is why credibility is so important. People are starting to see that he's always lying, so this tactic won't work as well.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:18 PM
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5. there are many people in this country that think war is great
they love the idea that we can kill and kill and kill because it gives them a sense of thier own power. AFter all, they paid for all those superior weapons.

What is missing is education and what is missing is a tru spiritual orientation. The Christain one, that Bush promotes , is obviously an enemy of Christianity and is an attempt to skew the religion to embrace absolute evil. And it seems to be working and I would like to know why that is so.

what is missing is a true education that brings satisfaction to seekers, where children are taught how to think philisophically and logically instead of captiatlistically and married to all things capitalist that would run one's life, whether they know it or not.

This is really obscene at this point.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:38 PM
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11. I am in full agreement with what you wrote.
from day 1, do we teach our children to fight or to work things out? Do we read to them and tell them the best thing they could do is to get a good education, don't we arrest and imprison those that seek to harm others? Now we show them it's alright to hit someone first, even tho their intentions are unknown.

We're fukked if we don't change things now.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:20 PM
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6. Not really.
I'd say he has a huge campaign liability: an *unpopular* war.

He can't really just start another war, either. The neocons have stretched our military to the breaking point.
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:27 PM
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10. Who else could he invade as painlessly as Iraq?
The only country that comes to mind is Syria, yet despite Syrias problems with Israel I doubt you could even come close to justifying that war.

North Korea you could justify but the cost would be enormous, 100's of thousands would perish in that dictatorships death throes.

Iraq was special because Bush already had a pre-demonized boogeyman in Saddam as well as a nation who truly couldn't do us any harm or defend itself.

Basically I think Bush may have already"Jumped the shark" and there truly is no where to go but down for him.

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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:22 PM
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7. It looks like the ultimate campaign liability right now
Perhaps if he'd shown the slightest ability to do anything right in Iraq, people wouldn't care about anything else, but his failed adventrure in Baghdad is a stone around the neck of his campaign.
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:25 PM
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9. The ultimate liability --- BOTCHED war
nt
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:40 PM
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12. If he were to start another war before NOV
without clear provocation (Iraq style propaganda buildup will not do this time) it will result in forfeiture of his presidency and a landslide vote against. Even many who fell for the WMD spiel are really uneasy about the way this has turned out. Those on the fence would be against right away.
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