Valerie5555
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Mon Feb-16-04 09:54 PM
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Hypothetical question concerning a "September 11 / World Trade Center" |
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Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 10:44 PM by Valerie5555
Memorial Museum.
Suppose the families (and friends) of the victims of the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks had their way, and a September 11 / World Trade Center Memorial Museum was built, if you had any kids would you go take your kids to go see the museum, particularly if some of the exhibits could also be rather "harrowing," (i.e. as in photos of people who decided to jump from the towers rather than be burned alive in the inferno and flames, and of the aftermath of the decision of those individuals to jump.).
I find it may be up to the parents to decide what their kids could handle in that regard.
On edit if anyone, kid or adult, had the bad luck of having an actual Sept 11 birthday (which I do not for mine is tomorrow, btw), I would consider it a "downer" of a way to celebrate anyone's birthday to go to such a place every year, even if it was to commemorate what happened on Sept 11.
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:03 PM
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1. I want that material available. |
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Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 10:03 PM by AngryYoungMan
It bothers me that it's been partially scrubbed away.
I live in NYC and I have a friend who, in 2001, was a producer at a major network morning news show. When I asked her, in December 01, if she had access to the "scrubbed" footage of people jumping etc. (The stuff that they have NEVER shown since) she took offense and asked angrily why anyone would want to see such things.
But I don't like anything to be hidden like this. It's like the video footage of Bush reading to the kids that morning. You can't find it 'cause it's gone. And I object.
ON EDIT: I realized I changed the subject a bit. Sorry.
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:06 PM
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:34 PM
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7. Thanks. Wow. I had not seen that... |
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Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 10:42 PM by AngryYoungMan
...although Leon Wieseltier wrote a very moving essay (in The New Republic) about that photo.
ON EDIT: I had to stop reading the essay halfway through because I couldn't really take it. I'll finish it later. I have to prepare myself when I think of that day. (I live in Manhattan; I was lucky in that I only lost one acquaintance and not someone I knew well.)
I will never forget one second of that day.
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:50 PM
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10. I live in Manhattan too |
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Chelsea.
I heard about that Esquire article and actually bought the mag in the airport before I took a flight! It's devastating. I agree with you that the people who jumped are sort of the dirty secret of that day. No one talks about it. My friend lived in the Battery Park City towers directly across from the WTC and she saw many, many people jumping. There is an artist who took many pictures and hung them in an EV gallery, but I can't think of his name right now. Will post if I remember. That story epitomizes the horror of that day.
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:55 PM
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11. Let me see if I can find you the Wieseltier piece... |
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It's one the better essays I've read.
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:56 PM
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13. A 1 time native son of Calgary who was credited with saving the American |
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hostages who escaped from Iran, during his diplomatic service days now lived in Manhattan, or I suspected that he did. I am not sure of his take on "the jumpers" though.
I remembered seeing a "Ken Taylor" entered as a name on one of the survivor registries in the days after Sept 11, I later found out that was the very Ken Taylor.
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:56 PM
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Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 11:07 PM by Stephanie
http://www.menuditis.com/twin.htmlBut I don't know if he still has the pictures up. *Edit: Bolivar Arellanos is his name
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:48 PM
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8. Maybe they should even have the material showing Bush first at the grade |
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or elementary school, and then showing him "flying out of harm's way" like the little "chickenpoop" he is.
BTW, My Mexican boss at work recently told me how "Presidente Bush es un poyo" is "President Bush is a chicken" in Spanish. :D
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:03 PM
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2. i'd be more afraid of the misleading information .. |
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If this happens, i'd be more afraid of the BS information that will be spread throughout the museum, with photos of our courageous president running like a scared cat etc...
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Mon Feb-16-04 11:01 PM
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14. If any Democrat had the guts |
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they should get up the nerve to show any pictures or other things showing how Bill Clinton actually beat the Shrub to NY by a couple of days though Clinton was in Australia.
In speaking of guts, someone ought to include the testimonies about the pilots who had the guts to tell thinks like they were in terms of what the passengers and crew on any jetliner ought to do about highjackers.
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:05 PM
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3. Hope they learn the lessons of OK City Memorial |
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Sounds like the OKC Memorial is having loads of financial problems, plus the design of a field of chairs is cordoned off due to concerns about the grass becoming just a field of mud. And victims families aren't too keen on paying $7 to go into the museum...
Sadly, I don't think the next generation is going to have any sense of history, or any feeling for significance of things like memorials.
I kind of doubt that it would draw a lot of international visitors, either, especially since W pissed away any international good will or sympathy we might have once enjoyed. Their schadenfreude will give them great pleasure as we slowly twist in the wind.
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:09 PM
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5. I would rather have the information about the treason involved so that |
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we would not forget to be wary of our government.
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:49 PM
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9. Maybe the museum should have a "Bush Knew" exhibit too |
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:13 PM
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I have children ranging from 2-11 and I personally think if they're old enough to go to a museum (my 2 year old, for example, is not), they're understand to understand why they are there and what it means.
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