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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 10:23 PM Original message |
Why hijab (head scarves) disturbs dictators, democrats |
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DianeG5385 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's because they are this generation's jews |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Another little know fact is that many original christian texts... |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. really? |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I couldn't give you any names off the top of my head. |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. here's a link to site with all the noncanonical books of the Bible |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. if i remember right |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. It was going on long before Abraham in that part of the world |
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eissa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. I'm Christian and we wear them in our church |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. women have always been used by politicians and religon |
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Jen (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. I am ashamed to see France |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. If the French are truly saying that they want their schools to be secular |
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Gulf Coast J (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. Freedom of speech does not stop at the schoolyard door |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. This is a FRENCH issue! |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
57. Bigotry is EVERYONE'S issue |
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pnb (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. There is a huge difference... |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
8. Great Editorial |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. Excellent article! |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 01:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. it's just so unenforceable |
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Kellanved (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. well |
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GreyV (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
11. interesting article... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
13. Deleted message |
rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 07:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. so, you're against freedom of religion? |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 07:12 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. prepositional definitions |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
58. No it doesn't |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 09:46 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. yes it does mean that |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 10:09 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Of and from mean different things |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. ok |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Our Constitution was written in English |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 10:23 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Sir, this is not a pedestrian world |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I have degrees |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. still incorrect |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. LOL |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Yes it does |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. People of Texas, people from Texas |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. No |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. As am I |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Maybe, but I'm still correct(nt) |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 12:10 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Thanks for the response I expected |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 08:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. You can be religious all you want in the privacy of your home |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 05:07 AM Response to Reply #17 |
56. how is someone's wearing a headscarf "forcing morale on you"? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 03:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
91. another thing |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 08:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I'm against religious expression in my public schools. Keep it at home |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
46. so France should stop |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 01:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Yes, they should. |
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AtTheEndOfTheDay (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
41. My take |
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Kellanved (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
16. another article |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 08:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Well, I´d like to see habits and robes banned as well |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 08:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. In a public school, of course. |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
19. No, it's just extreme cult religious iconry rammed down our throats that |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 09:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Who's ramming anything down your throat? |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You don´t understand... |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Once again.... |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 01:45 AM Response to Reply #24 |
49. As I said, the scarf is a weapon |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:22 AM Response to Reply #49 |
61. the hijab is not only worn by fundamentalists |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 04:06 AM Response to Reply #49 |
93. if the scarf would eradicate French culture, would that make it a WMD? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Then why do you use obsolete religious imagery.... |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 01:46 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. You obviously don´t understand this music... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 04:07 AM Response to Reply #50 |
94. it seems you are the only one who understands anything |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. being subjected to religious iconry daily, being spoon fed it's |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. so should we also burn down all the churchs, ban all mention of god |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Burn them? No, turn them into museums like the europeans have done.. |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Again I'll ask |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. They're entitled to practice their religion, they should just NOT do it in |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. how can you keep them from practicing their religion in a public setting? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Deleted message |
LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
71. Again, France is NOT the USA! |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Human rights are UNIVERSAL rights |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Let's find a middle ground... |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. The middle ground is choice. Wear it, or don't. |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 01:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
52. But women don´t get to decide |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:23 AM Response to Reply #52 |
62. That's the reality in Daniel Pipes' all Muslims are evil world... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 03:45 AM Response to Reply #52 |
90. so they have to be forced not to wear it? they still don't get to decide.. |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Still the point is how is someone wearing a cross, scarf, or skull cap |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
60. when you see a church you see reli fanaticism and feel forced to choose? |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
45. yes, indeed |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. I don't accept your plan to infringe the freedom of religion |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 01:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
51. That´s why the US is run by a bunch of looney christians |
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GreyV (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 02:17 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I doubt that.... |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 04:31 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. They sure have their own interests (as every government has) |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
59. Oh my God... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 09:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
65. Your post is amazing |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
47. I actually believe we SHOULD discuss religions in schools |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
63. I agree |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
55. Some of the biggest young feminists I know wear the hijab |
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Dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
66. So quick to come to the 'rescue' of muslim culture... |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Thank you |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. This isn't about rescuing Muslim culture |
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GreyV (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
77. anti-semitic? Muslims in Europe? |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. wow |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 04:03 AM Response to Reply #66 |
92. you'd like to suppress muslim culture? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
80. As a woman, I see the wearing of the hijab as another way |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
86. Australia:--Women embrace the hijab |
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GreyV (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 12:30 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. They are oppressed! |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
89. France's policy will inevitably cause an extreme reaction |
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