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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 04:06 AM
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Stay the course (bush* recycles a campaign theme)
caught snippets of bush*'s speeches yesterday -- the theme is "stay the course" --- where have we heard that before?

historically, voters are reluctant to change presidents during a time of war. Bush*'s campaign theme is recycled rhetoric from reagan's second presidential campaign.

however, we are at war and the 'stay the course' rhetoric worked for reagan -- how do we counter this?

coincidently, my neighbor mentioned that we "need to stay the course"...

my response: what if we are on the wrong course? Do we continue driving down the wrong road when we know we are on the wrong road, or do we reassess the situation and make some changes?

no response, just some mumblings
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 04:11 AM
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1. It's nonsense
Unfortunately you can't argue against it because it's essentially meaningless rhetoric. Too bad, because it sways people's opinions.

The way that people genuinely try to think things through and be responsible voters...and the way that this virtuous impulse is shamelessly exploited for the personal gain of our enemies... just makes me sick.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 04:50 AM
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3. If I have read right we have had more terrorists since Bush got in
What ever Clinton did the world was more peaceful than when the Bush first and second were running things.World wide terrorist have taken off since this guy got in. I think we need some one who will try to get rid of it and not blow up the world. It is just to old to think every thing can be fixed by war any more.This war like group has just not helped. Did you see that we had some Christian leaders hurt and killed in Iraq? Now why are they over there? I do not think pushing that on the people now is very smart. Do You? Bush has made more trouble than he is worth, thats for sure.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 04:42 AM
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2. No. We don't NEED to "stay the course"
"Staying the course" when the results are turning out to be less than favorable is usually what gets people bankrupt and/or dead.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:08 AM
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4. We Need to Get the Ship of State Off the Rocks and Patched Up...
...not run it even further aground by staying on the wrong course.

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 07:39 AM
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5. Vote For Nixon In '72
Don't Change Dicks In The Middle Of A Screw!

(A smartass bumper sticker whose time has come again.)

:evilgrin:
dbt
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 07:59 AM
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6. The best anagram for Chimpy's new campaign slogan
"Steady leadership in a time of change" is:

I feel anger! I say, shitcan the mad dope. :evilgrin:

See more anagrams at:

http://corrente.blogspot.com/2004_02_15_corrente_archive.html#107689069641109105

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:14 AM
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7. Historically, 'Staying the Course', is often the call...
that has brought disaster to many a people.

Mid 1945, Hitler "stayed the course", much to the despair if the German people. Long after any chance of negotiated cessation of hostilities could have a part of the equation, Hitler's policy ended up with untold 10's of thousands of civilians being killed, raped, injured and the country was left a smoldering mass of horror.

1916-1918, by keeping to the 'StC' mentality, millions died for virtually no gain. It also set the stage for the coming conflict in Europe in 1939.

In the Pacific Theater, long after the Japanese lost all hope of attaining ANY of their goals, Tojo's notion of 'StC' led directly to the nuclear holocausts of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In fact, Nagasaki in particular, was avoidable. Tojo had convinced the War Cabinet, and the Emperor that America could "not possibly have another one of those things ready to deploy". 3 days after Hiroshima, the Japanese received the horror of a second nuclear attack. At THAT point, it would have taken the US a while to produce another nuke. Hundreds of thousands were vaporized, because an idiot would not face the reality that his country "chosen poorly", when they began taking a road to war.

Our intervention in SE Asia, led to a 13 year conflagration that has yet to be resolved for much of the nation.

On the other hand, I believe that the movie, "The Patriot", with the Mel Gibson character being a shining example of patriotism during the Revolution, has a lot more to do with bush coming up the "stay the Course" mantra, than anything else.

A serious lack of realistic perceptions of the world run rampant through this administration. By "Staying the Course" this administration has set, we will return to the late 19th century, The Gilded Age"; we don't want to go there. We are fresh out of Teddy Roosevelt's to get us back on a decent "Course".

O8)
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