Larry Flynt will bring up Bush's girlfriend's abortion

[Renew Deal]

<snip>
Moby told my fellow gossips Rush & Molloy: "For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you're an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion."

Now the incorrigible Larry Flynt says he plans to market a Bush abortion story as genuine - in a book to be published this summer by Kensington Press.

"This story has got to come out," the wheelchair-bound Hustler magazine honcho told the Daily News' Corky Siemaszko. "There's a lot of hypocrisy in the White House about this whole abortion issue."

Flynt claimed that Bush arranged for the procedure in the early '70s.

"I've talked to the woman's friends," Flynt said. "I've tracked down the doctor who did the abortion, I tracked down the Bush people who arranged for the abortion," Flynt said. "I got the story nailed."

Flynt wouldn't disclose whether he plans to name the woman.
<snip>
Some crap response from the pukes inserted here.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/165111p-144622c.html

[Dirty Hippie]

1. Do you know the name of the book?

Is it written by Flynt?

[0007]

54. The name of the book should be titled

"I Loved You, but you didn't give a fuck about Me"

[NNN0LHI]

2. That is why the RNC chairman is so worried about it

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=4349775

<snip>Gillespie said: "We now know that some time this fall Kerry campaign operatives intend to go into pro-life chat rooms on the Internet to spread a scurrilous story that President Bush drove a former girlfriend to an abortion clinic, and paid for her abortion, according to the New York Daily News."

[Jackpine Radical]

3. A slight Republican-style edit:

RNC head Gillespie said: "We now know that...President Bush drove a former girlfriend to an abortion clinic, and paid for her abortion, according to the New York Daily News."

[Renew Deal]

6. Send it to drudge

;)

[calimary]

47. EXACTLY! This is our counter-attack for the Kerry "intern" story.

They wanna make something of THAT? Well, then, how 'bout THIS?

[w4rma]

72. Kerry "intern" (note she never interned for kerry) is already toast.

Her and her family denied it in its totality.

[Mobius]

5. worried is good

YAY for Larry Flynt!
{editied to add I seriously doubt any rational human being would consider Larry Flynt a Kerry operative, "rational" being the key word here.}

[bushisanidiot]

4. Unlike Drudge, Flynt Actually Has PROOF To Back Up His Claims

the repukes want to wallow in the gutter..

bring it the fuck on! AWOL has a hell of a lot more to hide from his past than any other president has..

[benburch]

7. Good.

I've written to Flynt several times asking that he do just this.

[YNGW]

8. This sux.

The LAST thing our party needs is to be associated with a smutking, scumbag like Flint. This has Lose-Lose for us written all over it.

[benburch]

9. BS

He has more honesty in his little finger than the whole Bush White House.

[CatWoman]

11. you know what?

I think the last thing our party need to associate itself with is stale, holier-than-thou pollyanna mentalities.

[YNGW]

12. Reply

Even worst than that are people who believe they know better than the experts. :)

[CatWoman]

13. Larry Flynt is a great American

He did this country noteworthy service by outing all of the GOP hypocrites during impeachment.

I'll line up with him ANY TIME.

[YNGW]

14. LF

Larry Flint is a smut salesman who degrades women. If he were to die within the hour, I wouldn't shed a tear. Good Riddance, Larry!

[CatWoman]

16. Heh

ever think that maybe he feels the same?

[YNGW]

17. I don't care.

nc

[Paragon]

31. L.A.S.S.?

YNGW?

I must be uncool - are we supposed to understand what these acronyms mean?

[YNGW]

33. One more time

YNGW are the first letters of the names of my 4 kids. L.A.S.S. is my wife's intials.

Paranoia will destroya. :)

[mdmc]

59. NASCAR Dads read Hustler

The Dem dads do, anyway. Sure, porn is bad. Its life.

[Mandate My Ass]

18. He may be a sleaze peddler

but at least he's open about it. That is probably why he's so effective at outing the slimeballs who hide behind a false morality. Go Larry!!!! :thumbsup:

[kskiska]

29. As Larry likes to say,

"They said I was a bottom feeder. I said yeah, but look what I found down there."

[Catherine Vincent]

40. I'll always love that quote from Flynt.

That was so right on!

[calimary]

49. He could also have said "...but look WHO I found down there."

[burmartesq]

25. Last time I checked

Now, last time I checked those women in his magazine AGREED to pose nude. He hasn't forced them, he hasn't made them do anything against thier will. He's paid women to show their "naughy bits."

Are you against giving individual women the right to contract?

[hlthe2b]

39. This is the way I've always felt about him.... I'm now at least willing to

credit him for being honest in what he does, what he thinks, what he is. While I don't like Hustler and agree that it degrades women, the fact is that I also have to agree with Flynt that he has the right to publish it and women have the right to participate voluntarily if they wish. So, life is complex and so, too are my evolving feelings towards Flynt. I have to admit that he does deserve some reluctant respect on my part for taking on the freedom of speech issues as he has and I won't be a hypocrite. Continuing to speek out, as he does after suffering an attempt on his life also must garner some respect.

While I should not take any glee from a major scandal that Flynt might expose on Bush (and whoever the woman is), I'd be less than honest with myself(and human) if I said I would not at least experience some satisfaction that Bush's hypocrisy
had been exposed.

[proud patriot]

55. Larry Flint drew the line of Freedom in the sand for every American

I am not a fan of Hustler , however
I'm a fan of freedom thus am grateful
to Larry for his STAND which ensures
My freedom .

By the way I'm a married homemaker with a son .

THANK YOU LARRY Your sacrafice is not lost on me .

T and A is less obscene than the Shock and Awe Campaign
televised on all news stations across America .

Bobmings are far more offensive to me .

[kysrsoze]

85. Exactly - Porn is much less damaging than war in the name of $

Look at Europe - sex everywhere, but very little violence. They're a more evolved society which doesn't let repression rule.

[benburch]

64. I know women who have worked for Flynt

(Yes, doing that.)

And none of them have reported feeling degraded in the slightest.

[imax2268]

69. So YNGW...so does... GM, AOL and a few others...

at least he's not hiding like some of the major corporations out there...

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/DailyNews/porn_business_030128.html

[Solomon]

19. Not only that. Even more importantly, he protected our right to free

speech, over and over again.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

45. Agree 100%. You don't have to like what he does for a living to admire...

...what he's done as an American.

[historian]

75. WELL SAID

[Brian Sweat]

28. Even worse are people who think they are experts when they aren't.

[YNGW]

30. No Kidding!

nc

[Cat Atomic]

42. Who's the expert?

I don't understand.

[11 Bravo]

23. Ouch! (But oh so true)

n/t

[calimary]

51. Yes, but the "stale, holier-than-thou pollyanna mentalities" are alive

and well in OUR White House and dominating EVERY aspect of our government and media landscape.

The only way you beat a bully is by fighting back, and hitting back hard. It's the only language a bully understands. If we have to speak gutter to smoke 'em out and send 'em back to Crawford, I'd vote for "whatever works."

You're right, Catwoman. This shit does have to stop. But it won't unless these thugs have a taste of their own medicine shoved down their throats. It doesn't work to take the high road. It doesn't work to ignore. It doesn't work to ask them to stop. It doesn't work to say we're indignant and denounce it. NONE of that works. It hasn't stopped them. They'll keep it up until and unless they have a good reason to stop. They WILL not stop just out of the goodness of their hearts, or because this is gutter depravity and it's just not the right thing to do and we should ALL, themselves included, be taking the high road. It just won't. Human nature. Soooooo, the only tactic left is to MAKE them stop. Or at least think twice about starting.

I'm sorry it's come to this. I'm sorry I find myself even thinking along these lines. It does make one feel rather soiled. But I didn't start this. We didn't start this. The republi-CONS started this with their evil and their conniving and their backroom dirty tricks and con games and pyramid schemes and lowlife crap. They have sown the seeds. Now, let them reap their rewards. I don't like it anymore than you do. But what I don't like even more is that it just continues unabated. This isn't how WE want it. This is how THEY want it. So, okay, then. Fine.

In the immortal words of george w. schmuck, "Bring 'em ON!"

[buycitgo]

71. yeah, BABY! sounds like a speech from Georgette the V!

very stirring, and it so perfectly catches the spirit of what we're up against!

where are the horses?

this quote has been overdone lately but I couldn't help thinking of it after reading your great post:

"We few, we happy few, we Band of Brothers, for he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother."

no blood shed, all hope, but the Bush was, after all RIGHT, wasn't he: he IS a UNITER, not a divider!

in the same way that he's been creating jobs: in India, China, Taiwan, Cambodia, Burkina Faso, Mars.......

he's the BIZARRO pResident

[kysrsoze]

86. Yup, and it's always those who act so pure who turn out to be the

absolute biggest deviants. Whoever posted the list of Repub sex offenders, I salute you.

[Fridays Child]

41. If Flynt really has the story nailed, and he can prove it...

...they can try to "shoot the messenger" but it won't alter the facts.

[northernsoul]

62. just like associating with Drudge hurt the pukes

Granted, I don't think anyone from the party should be making any public appearances with good old Larry - but this year we can't afford to take a knife to a gun fight. If this story gets just some of the action that all the idiotic sleaze and innuendo from Drudge has gotten, it'll help suppress the Fundie vote and hurt *.

[kcwayne]

10. The only interesting part of this story will be how Bush spins it

The fact that he participated in a decision for his girlfriend to have an abortion in 1970 is immaterial.

The whole "born again" story is about redemption, not that you never were a "sinner". Look how many alcoholics and drug addicts replace their addictions with Jesus, and repulsively proselytize about past transgressions.

As such, revealing that Bush was once for an abortion of expediency and now is against it won't register with the Christian right. I am not sure if it really registers with the atheistic left, other than as a footnote to yet another story of an idiot bouncing through a life of convenience that converts to religion and thinks that they now have something marvelous to share/enforce on the rest of humanity.

If the woman and her family are being dragged into the media crucible unwillingly, then Larry is doing them a great disservice. There are more important issues that deserve scrutiny, such as the tens or hundreds of thousands that have died because of this moron's leadership. It is easy enough to make the case that Bush is a lying scoundrel and a hypocrite without resorting to inflicting embarrassment and harassment on someone that is not a player in the tragedy of Bush at the helm.

[demgrrrll]

15. Part of what fires up Bush's base is the abortion issue. He does not

usually come right out and say what he will or will not
do about the issue they use code words like "family values"
to get the message across. I remember going door to door
during the 2002 campaign and having people angrily tell me they
would not vote for the Democratic candidate because of this issue.
They burn up the phone lines and stir people up. This issue
does get people to the polls. If he can be neutralized on this issue
it would be helpful. No, I do not think that the woman or her family should be involved without their permission. Kerry can denounce
Larry Flynt if he feels his actions are improper in any way. From
the way that they have handled the initial onslaught of smears I would say that the Kerry team isn't going to stumble.

[kcwayne]

21. I agree that abortion fires them up

but unless Bush was a particpant in an abortion in the last 10-15 years it doesn't make him a hypocrite or cause people who don't see him as a worthless parasite to question his integrity.

This story is not about an abortion that took place over 30 years ago, it is about integrity. Bush has admitted to being a "sinner" in his youth. The people that care about the abortion issue so fervently forgive him his youth because he became born again. As long as he sings the hymns today, he is in good standing with them. Just like Linda Lovelace.

[Habibi]

26. Very sane and compassionate response.

Thank you!

[LeahMira]

34. The Christian right is a small group.

As such, revealing that Bush was once for an abortion of expediency and now is against it won't register with the Christian right.

THe Christian right is only about 30% of the population, but you're probably correct. They will spin it just as you have... a story of Bush's redemption and spiritual healing through grace or whatever.

Fortunately, the other 70% of us don't have such a convenient conscience.

I learned that we are forgiven our tresspasses as we forgive those who tresspass against us.

I also learned that we need to ask forgiveness, not from G-d, but from the person that we injured by our actions.

Needless to say then, I am not impressed by Bush's born-again status, which is no different either qualitatively or quantitavely from his just born once status. In that, I'm not part of a minority.

[diamond14]

35. in 1970, abortion was a CRIME....and taking a minor across state

lines for an abortion makes it a BIGGER CRIME....

this is about bush* hypocrisy...he doesn't mind putting his stink into womens' gynocologists' offices and personally making decisions for women, who would prefer that bush* stay out of their medical decisions....

just like he did in the 1970...it doesn't affect him at all, or his own daughters...because just like in 1970, when it's illegal, the rich still get their abortions, at medical centers by qualified doctors too, not in back-alleys.....

[kcwayne]

36. I don't know about the dates in question

and whether this was an illegal abortion or not.

If it were illegal it raises the ante for Bush on the issue of his integrity in his youth. It shows that he was willing to break the law for his personal gain.

But again, you can pound this issue and increase the level of disgust of this man that those that already despise him have, but it won't materially change the right wings view because of that magically healing power of being "born again". In their world view, he cast off all of those sins by accepting Jesus as his personal savior.

So is it appropriate to expose his victim to the media frenzy against her will for this talking point?

I am very sensitive to this issue. My mother had a back alley abortion in 1968 and almost died from the infection that set in. It would cause here enormous pain to be drug through a public spectacle for the sake of politics. However, she hates Bush enough that she might be willing to do that (no, Bush wasn't the one that got her pregnant), but it should be her choice, not the press.

[diamond14]

52. "youth"? in the early 70's, bush* had already finished college....

finished his lame service in the TANG...

hardly a 'YOUTH'....

bush* was a FULL GROWN MAN who took a minor across state lines for an ILLEGAL abortion...

with enough pressure, maybe bush*'s victim will STAND UP and tell the truth...such an effort will make it so much easier for other victims....

sure it's hard...but look to people like Elsa May Thurman for inspiration....for so long she was silent...but then she STOOD UP, with dignity....and was supported by everyone...if bush*'s victim remains silent, it may cost her life....

victims do not need to cower....only when victims STAND UP and tell the truth will their tormentors be brought to justice...

perhaps many years ago, bush*'s victim quietly went away...but today...in this atmosphere, she CAN stand up and lift her own burden, hopefully her parents will be there for her....

[kath]

76. Speaking of his daughters, there's also the issue of the alleged

"appendectomy" that Jenna had shortly after Chimpyshit was installed in office.

[diamond14]

82. good point...that's probably why shrub didn't go visit her in the

hospital...an abortion could have really derailed bush* popularity right there....better not to appear associated with it in any way....if it gets brought up...tell them all that you thought it was an "appendectomy" and that you never ask anything about womens' private parts...Jenna had a 'tummy ache'....

[dennis4868]

20. What we need to do is....

get Bush under oath about this in any way....much like what they did to the Big Dog in 1998!

[Finch]

22. “Smut Peddler Who Cares"

You Gotta Remember that Larry’s a “Smut Peddler Who Cares”… If they can fake pictures of Kerry and Fonda and concoct wild rumours about Kerry having affairs then I say good luck to Larry if only he was Governor of California now… ;)

[CatWoman]

24. Welcome to DU, Finch

:hi:

Thanks for the input :thumbsup:

[msmcghee]

27. With pukes running both houses . .

. . of congress and the SC, getting Bush under oath is a pipe dream.

Immorality is deceit or forcing someone to do something against their will (outside of the legal system). Larry Flynt is one the most moral humans I've ever seen.

That's why a**holes hate him. Go Larry.

[kskiska]

32. * was once pro-choice

I was just reading in David Corn's "The Lies of George W. Bush" that during his unsuccessful run for Congress, he gave a 1978 interview with the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal. According to the newspaper, "Bush said he opposes the pro-life amendment favored by (his opponent) and favors leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question."

During his successful 1994 canpaign for governor,, Bush said, "I will do everything in my power to restrict abortions." And as a presidential candidate, he was calling himself "pro-life" and supporting a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion. Yet his switch from "pro-choice" to "pro-life" had escaped public notice.

Later, when asked about it, his aides said he'd been "misinterpreted" in that interview, but considering the context of the questioning, this explanation didn't hold water.

[proud patriot]

37. wheeeeeeeeeeeeee !

Go Larry Go :bounce:

[LibDemAlways]

38. The chimp absolutely counts on

the single issue anti-abortion voters. My husband's aunt is one, and she's a fanatic. If she believed that the chimp had arranged for a girlfriend's abortion, she'd stay home on election day - and I suspect she's not alone. This bit of Bush history could make the difference in a close election.

[Fridays Child]

43. While we're on the subject, Larry, see if you can get Tammy Phillips...

...to sing like a bird, too.

[bagnana]

44. Hypocrisy exposed

When Flynt went after Hyde, Livingston, Gingrich, etc., it made my day -- not because I cared if they were fooling around, but only to get them to shut the F*** up about Clinton's indiscretions. Was there ever anything more grating than Hyde's sanctimonous face on t.v. leading the charge towards impeachment? Republican hypocrisy on their pet "morality" issues never ceases to amaze me. I'm so happy Flynt is not letting the abortion issue drop. Remember, Bush effectively killed U.S. stem cell research because of his claimed concern about the sanctity of life. If he really did push an illegal abortion on an underaged girlfriend in the 70's, by all means expose it and let him answer for it. I want him to have to square that with his supposed concern about the sanctity of life, that prevents him from allowing stem cell resarch, and possible help for people with horrible, painful afflictions.

[9215]

46. CNN edited its transcripts when this story was first aired

George W. Bush and Illegal Abortion
American Politics Journal <http://www.americanpolitics.com/index.html>
DAVE "Doctor" GONZO
October 22, 2000
Hats off to two astute American Politics Journal readers.
Within minutes of each other, they emailed our editors this evening with the news that they had discovered that CNN's "official" transcript of the Friday, Oct. 20th broadcast of Crossfire at
CNN transcripts <http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0010/20/cf.00.html> had been -- well, for lack of more polite term, redacted.
Missing from the transcript was the following exchange between resident Crossfire conservative Bob Novak and one of their guests, publisher Larry Flynt.
Note the irony of Bob Novak's comment concerning CNN never censoring its guests ... also, please note that the source for the transcript which follows is not CNN but our own indefatigable staffer Liz Callahan, who transcribed the exchange from a videotape of the original live CNN broadcast as seen in near-real time on Time Warner Cable in Manhattan.

STILL ON THE CNN SITE
< IN THEIR SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TRANSCRIPTION >
Ms. Hughes : ... But the commission did hear testimony from schools and libraries who had effectively used technologies with their acceptable use policies, and that it did work well, Bill, so you'll have different viewpoints on that.


The following has been removed from the CNN transcript
Mr. Novak : Mr. Flynt, NEVER let it be said that we CENSOR any of our guests here on CROSSFIRE -- and you said you wanted to talk about the election. Tell me what you wanted to say.
Mr. Flynt : Well, during the impeachment debacle, we did an investigation which resulted in the resignation of Bob Livingston and others, and we have continued this investigation -- and for eight months we've been looking into George W. Bush's background.
And we've found out in the early 1970s, he was involved in an abortion in Texas -- and I just think that it's sad that the mainstream media, who's aware of this story, won't ask him that question, when they were able to ask him the drug question without any proof at all -- and we've got all kinds of proof on this issue.
Mr. Novak : Well, you're ...
Mr. Flynt : You know, the guy ADMITTED he was a drunk for twenty years, and if the abortion issue is true, then that puts him lower on the morality scale than Bill Clinton!
Mr. Novak : Mr. Flynt, you said IF it's true and you have no proof of that. I gather you are a very strong ...
Mr. Flynt < smiling, mind you> : THE HELL WE DON'T HAVE PROOF!

Desperate Measures : George W. Bush & Abortion
Bartcop <http://www.bartcop.com/bushabortion.htm>
Note : Apparently, the source of this story was due to go public this week via publisher Larry Flynt, but found out that Flynt was planning to make a tabloid sale, and changed her mind. Like George W. Bush's intervention in commuting the sentence of serial killer Henry Lee Lucas, this is a story that is circulating in the press packs, but that few people want to touch at the eleventh hour of the 2000 U.S. presidential election.
In the winter of 1971 George W. Bush was dating a woman named Robin Lowman (now Robin Garner). Miss Lowman became pregnant by Smirk and he arranged for her to have an abortion - which in the great state of Texas in 1971 was very illegal! Not to mention that George W. is running as a pro-life candidate for the presidency.
The unnamed source of this story, was a friend of Robin Lowman's and the girlfriend of the man who arranged the abortion. His name is Robert Carl Chandler. Chandler is a Bush friend and supporter from way back and he made the arrangements for Miss Lowman's abortion at the Twelve Oaks Hospital in Houston, TX (now the Bayou City Medical Center). The source overheard the call by Mr. Chandler to arrange the abortion and the source visited Robin Lowman at the Twelve Oaks Hospital after the procedure.
The source meanwhile, is afraid of coming forward, saying that she was threatened by Chandler and another Bush friend and supporter named Jim Bath. Bath has longstanding intelligence connections, and played a role in the BCCI scandal. Robin Lowman (now Garner) is married to Jerry Lee Garner who is an FBI agent.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=6059&forum=DCForumID70&omm=1

[KansDem]

48. I remember when this happened...

Damn "librul" media!!! :grr:

On edit: I also remember when CNN CEO Isaacson went groveling to the Congressional Republicans...

Shortly after taking the reins, in the summer of 2001, Isaacson initiated a number of moves designed to enhance the station's appeal to conservatives, including a high-profile meeting with the Congressional Republican leadership to listen to their concerns.

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030224&c=3&s=alterman2

[NNN0LHI]

58. I was watching that show and know what I heard

Who does CNN think they are kidding? Themselves maybe?

Don

[9215]

65. Somewhere out there, there

is a copy of the original version. Now wouldn't that be fun to have a Bill Moyer's NOW discussion on censorship with this as a case study. :bounce:

[scottxyz]

61. Bush was 22 - the girl was 15 - statutory rape AND murder?

But, in any case, the fact that Bush impregnated a 15-year-old girl when he was 22 years old is quite well documented. They have an affidavit from the doctor who performed the abortion, several nurses who were present and an affidavit from a close friend of the victim, Robin Lowman, now Gardner. The abortion was performed after hours at Twelve Oaks hospital in Houston. Ms. Gardner is now married to an FBI agent who has threatened violence against anyone who confronts her. The Gardners now live in San Antonio, Texas.

http://www.hnn.us/comments/11459.html

[diamond14]

63. bush* family values...it really surprises me that her father didn't

have a few words with the shrub....

when my 15 year old sister dated a 19 year old man...my dear mother went right over to his dorm room and gave him hell...followed by a long long meeting with his parents....

there's long list of 'family-value' bush criminals infecting America today....put them all in jail....

[9215]

68. Lowman (the minor) got married to an FBI agent. Imagine

that. I wonder how that was arranged????

In addition she, or here friend, I can't remember which, said that they were harassed by James Bath. Lowman then refused to go any further with the details as I remember it.

Here's a topic I did awhile back on this and other Repug behaviour that tends to deviate from "traditional family values" :

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=790775#791088

[knight_of_the_star]

81. Ooooh, that sounds NASTY!

I like I like I like!

So we can add staturory rape, illegal abortion, and transportation of a minor across state lines for an illegal abortion to the indictment?

[Jackpine Radical]

87. Bush belongs on the Sex Offender Registry

as a child molester.

[West Coast Democrat]

50. Unfortunately, we do have to be ready to battle GOP smudge

It may work if we simply threaten to bring out stories like this, if the RNC refuses to play on the level.

[calimary]

57. Unfortunate, but absolutely true.

It's a good card to keep up our sleaves. Maybe we never have to play it, per se. But if we let them know we know, and won't hesitate to bring it out if Drudge starts making noise about Kerry, well, then, seems the playing field might be leveled a little bit.

I clearly remember not hearing a peep out of Henry Hyde AND Dan Burton after they were exposed for their worse-than-Monica shenanigans, while they were trying to persecute Clinton. All of a sudden, they shut up and crawled back into the shadows.

on edit -

BY THE WAY, notice in 9215's post (#46) just above - the reference to JAMES BATH. He's the bush crony from the AWOL days. Just gettin' fishier and fishier.

[Wapsie B]

53. It's about time.

I remember when this first came out on a TV interview Larry was on. The transcripts were scrubbed of Flynt's mention of the episode.

[GRClarkesq]

56. Story would go further from someone other than Flynt

n/t

[Media_Lies_Daily]

79. Wrong. Maybe you've forgotten Gingich and a few other GOP...

...casualties from their attempt to remove Clinton from office.

[scottxyz]

60. W the WMD liar, W the AWOL deserter, W the drunk - now W the fetus-killer

Larry Flynt is a very intelligent man who doesn't go public with a story unless he has PROOF (unlike Drudge).

This story's not gonna die now. People are getting sick of Bush's lies and coverups about WMD, about AWOL, about DUI, about cocaine - this is gonna be the last straw.

Remember the real reason why the Bush dynasty cheating so much now - calling in national troops to lockdown NYC for their convention, hacking the voting machines, taking away people's Constitutional rights - they KNOW that their support out there is disappearing. Fiscal conservative Republicans have had it with Bush - the CIA has had it with Bush - Republicans who care about defense and intel have had it with Bush - so all that he has left supporting him now are the homophobes, racists and sexist freaks - the Taliban types.

There are plenty of real Republicans out there who remember that "conservatism" means you don't run up trillion-dollar deficits, who remember that "strong defense" means you don't go fighting a war of choice in the wrong country just so you can fatten up your buddy's bank accounts, who remember that "free markets" require SEC scrutiny and auditing to make sure CEOs can't cook the books and create massive bankruptcies like Enron. Those types of Republicans are appalled at what Bush has done to our defenses, to our alliances, to our economy - and they don't really care if gays get married of if a woman gets an abortion. These types of Republicans are all quietly abandoning Bush. If they had another Republican to vote for now, they would.

So all Bush has left is his core of Taliban types - people who equate "leadership" with "bullying" of women and minorities.

And he's going to have a hard time hanging on to those last remaining idiots when they realize their great leader broke the law 30 years ago to "murder his own fetus".

[9215]

70. That's what I've been thinking. If Larry could turn it over

to a more "neutral" party. But then again Flynt kicked ass in his 1st Amendment battle with the Supreme Court.

[mac2]

66. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[Chovexani]

67. Larry Flynt is an American Hero

Who cares if he's a pervert? He's honest and makes no apologies about what he does and what he's about, and he has done more to fight for our constitutional freedoms than a lot of the self-styled puritans who attack him. He's a patriot and doesn't do these things for money or notoriety--dontcha think he's got enough of both? Besides I'll always respect the guy for honoring the wishes of Bob Livingstone's wife to keep the gory details of his affair private for the sake of their children. Say what you will about what he does for a living (I like porn, but his filth is a little too filthy for me :evilgrin:), you can't fault his motives.

Go for it Larry!

--Chovexani thinks it's funny when a pervert is the voice of sanity :)

[grasswire]

73. I spoke to someone in Washington today...

....who worked with Flynt on his investigations of Republicans. This person says if Flynt says it, you can take it to the bank. If he prints it, it's the truth.

[BeachBuckeye]

78. My sources........

Tell me the exact same thing. If it were not for Flynt they would have convicted Clinton during the impeachment.

[scottxyz]

74. Here's a good summary, with links to press coverage

http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=159

[bvar22]

77. I would feel honored to have dinner with L. Flynt.

I gag at the thought of dinner with bunnypants* and Laura.:puke:

[BillZBubb]

80. The right wing true believers will give him a pass.

Just like they have done on all his "youthful mistakes". That's a weakness people have when they worship a false idol.

He's seen the light, he's asked Jesus for forgiveness, and he has been born again!

But, it will help win votes for us from the moderate voters. They at least can smell hypocrisy when the wind is up.

[napi21]

83. I'm not so sure.

You say the RW true believers will give him a pass? I'm thinking that all the problems that keep piling up on GW, this story might be the kicker. Do you realize how adamant they are about this issue? I'm not so sure even the born again thing is gonna work.

[Ksec]

84. Fightin dirty is what they want so lets do this!

Ill never forget the 8 yrs of assaults on Pres Clinton with every charge known to man being leveled against him. I warned them that this will become a war . I told them whats going to happen if they kept up the crazy attacks. They kept them up.

Now its time to pay the piper.