Gogi
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Thu Feb-19-04 01:30 AM
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Gasoline is at $1.77 for regular unleaded in the St. Louis area. |
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Premium unleaded is $1.82. They're saying it will go up to $2.00. Some people think gas prices might hit $3.00 here.(Maybe, but I doubt it.) This is'nt a thread about peak oil but about the crunch coming because the developing world is giving the U.S. more and more competition for oil. The oil producing countries simply have more markets and much larger markets in China and India. I would'nt be surprised if gas prices here went up to $2.00 and stayed there. This will have a ripple effect in our economy and be a rude awakening for anyone not paying attention.
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Thu Feb-19-04 01:35 AM
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1. If Clinton was President |
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they would be jumping up and down
With Bush there is silence
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Thu Feb-19-04 01:40 AM
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2. I saw regular at $1.99 in southern California |
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Thu Feb-19-04 01:46 AM
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what's driving the prices up?
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Thu Feb-19-04 01:50 AM
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5. A similar thing is happening to steel prices |
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There was a column in the local paper yesterday about rising steel prices, I couldn't find a link for it. Anyway the value of the dollar dropping along with the USA not being able to supply it's own steel needs is causing the price of steel to go up. The local steel company is predicting the price of unfinished steel will more than double this year to over $650 a ton.
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Thu Feb-19-04 03:30 PM
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30. I work for an air conditioning company and... |
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our sheetmetal suppliers are raising their prices by 33%. I just made the adjustments to my spreadsheet program today.
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Thu Feb-19-04 01:50 AM
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Thanks for posting this, glad to hear someone is finally bringing it up.
We (or THEY) just attacked and stole the second largest pile of oil on the planet!
They are getting all that oil for FREE now, and the price is just going up and up.
Grrrrhhh
The whole thing is nothing but a SCAM!!
Kelley
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Prediction-- just before the biggest driving weekend of the year in May, there will be a sudden 'shortage' of gas and prices will go up another 10-25 cents a gallon.
(Note- I'm no genious, its only happened every single year since I was born)
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At the beginning of next winter there will be a sudden 'shortage' of heating oil.. No one in the oil biz had any idea there would be higher demand in the winter.
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Thu Feb-19-04 02:49 AM
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Thu Feb-19-04 03:00 AM
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7. $1.89 at the cheap ARCO stations in San Diego. |
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In two weeks it'll be over $2.00. You'd think that with all the free oil thats being stolen in Iraq they'd cut us consumers a little slack.
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Thu Feb-19-04 04:05 AM
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13. All that Free Oil just makes 'em greedier and meaner |
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The Busheviks have a varacious appetite for blood and oil.
It's been that way long before their pal, Hitler, was driving on the Caucasus for it's oil reserves.
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Thu Feb-19-04 03:04 AM
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8. Welcome to the real World |
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Here in Germany a liter of Premium unleaded currrently is at 1.12 EUR. That´s equal to a gallon price of 5.44 USD.
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Thu Feb-19-04 03:26 AM
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10. Please send me some trains! |
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You have trains going to every single town.
Send me that .. Please!
And since I am the most powerful country in the world, and my president is the son of the oil industry (btw, he hates Germany's guts) and they just attacked and took over the 2nd biggest pile of oil on the planet...
For some reason Bush's oil companies just don’t have any gas, so prices are sky rocketing here!
Kind of like after Halliburton took over Iraq and now they pay 2.96 a gallon.
We need your help to attack and take over the rest of the oil ...
Please join the coalition of the willing today ~ !!
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Thu Feb-19-04 05:03 AM
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14. I´m afraid our fabled train net is a thing of the past |
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The Deutsche Eisenbahn has been privatized about a decade back and service and coverage of rural areas have gone down like a brik tossed in a lake. There are vast regions here in eastern Bavaria where you have to drive 20 or 30 miles to even reach a motorway. There are alot of busses, true but having the last bus go home at 8 when you work until 10 or Hell forbid want to go out limits alot of people severely.
As to the second part, I think they have the gas, they´re just testing how much the ordinary citizen can pay. I mean, c´mon, it´s such a nice opportunity to raise prices, why not do it and raise your profit margin ? Where in capitalism does it say you have to pass on price drops to your suffering customers ?
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Thu Feb-19-04 03:23 AM
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9. How many miles to St. Louis from SF? |
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I bet if I drove there to fill up, I'd still save money. And I'm 20 minutes away from the Chevron refineries across the Bay...
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Thu Feb-19-04 03:31 AM
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11. I hear California can expect $5 in places this summer. :( This price |
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you are citing is normal for Alaska, even cheap. And we make the stupid stuff up here.
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Thu Feb-19-04 04:02 AM
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Everyone I see pulling into the gas station looks at the prices chagrined. I think the cheapest price I've seen is $1.89 at an Arco and well over $2 at Shell and other Gulf War beneficiaries. Man, remember the good old days when gas was as high as $1.10 and as little as 90 cents a gallon? Wow, I think that was way back in - - - 1999. Gee, we must have had a President back then real tight with the oil companies who helped cut the average citizen a break, right? As the Oxymoron himself would say, that's the way things oughtta be.
Wanna help spread the message how good things used to be? There's a bumper sticker with a quote from President Reagone, "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" I propose discreetly placing this bumper sticker at your local gas station, preferably somewhere near the gas prices. Everyone who reads this quote, liberal and conservative, will have to think and answer that question honestly themselves. I've also seen a bumper sticker with that quote plus the phrase Vote Democratic if you really want to drive the point home.
I think if we started seeing this message more frequently at a place where the prices are double what they were four years ago, maybe the slower ones in the general populace would start putting two and two together. Then maybe, just maybe, we could have a President in the White House, instead of an oil thief.
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Thu Feb-19-04 05:29 AM
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there was a time during the clinton administration when you could get gas out here in Seattle for $0.99/gallon. Now I pay 1.60-1.80. If Americans had any brains, we would have sucked up all the middle east's oil first, then sold ours to the world once we were the only one's left who had it...oh well...
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Thu Feb-19-04 05:32 AM
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Thu Feb-19-04 03:21 PM
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28. If you're responding to my Modest Proposal... |
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you can order the bumper stickers at: http://www.democracymeansyou.com/Just click on the icon DMY Store. You'll find one on the Stickers icon.
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Thu Feb-19-04 05:34 AM
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17. Regular is $2.09 at the corner station in Santa Barbara area... |
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...and that's not the highest, by any means. I'll shop around and see if I can find it for 10 cents less, but I'm not holding my breath. But then, we always get gouged. I think it has something to do with local opposition to drilling since the hideous oil spill on the coast over 25 years ago. I mean, the oil companies still get to drill and refine and all that, but not nearly as much as they want to...
I test drove a Prius last year (they're popular here) but was really put off by the user interface -- I felt like I'd have to learn to drive all over again, and I didn't much like it the first time around. Still, I'm really glad Toyota is persisting with this, and if my husband ever gets off the dime and replaces his aged Tercel I'll be happy to learn to drive his Prius. The oil/energy situation is just nuts.
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Thu Feb-19-04 12:23 PM
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27. That's what I paid last night here in LA.... ***sigh*** |
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Thu Feb-19-04 05:35 AM
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18. That pretty much wipes out the "tax cut" if you live in CA |
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Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 05:36 AM by SoCalDem
For a two worker family , most people here commute a lot.. BOTH workers too..
My husband drives 30 miles each way and buys all his gas on credit card so we only pay once a month ..
The "tax-cut" gave him $12.00 a week extra in his paycheck.. and our gasoline bill has risen from about $175.00 a month to $213.00 this month....
add to that the fact that everything ELSE has gone up too.. lettuce was $1.69 a head... tomatoes $2.29 a lb...
so to all you "monitors" who read DU and criticize us for not LOVING the tax cut.. if you live in California, you LOST your tax cut.. and when you file your taxes, you will find out that what you got in August (we got ZERO).. will be taken back ..
Enjoy your "hero-man" president who only has your best interests at heart..:eyes:
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Thu Feb-19-04 06:47 AM
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19. just one more nail in the coffin |
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for Bu$hCo -- granted not great for us.
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Thu Feb-19-04 07:46 AM
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20. Prices went up 17 cents per gallon two days ago.... |
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Don't cha know,OPEC said they would cut production by about 10%,they've also been known to change that number and not cut production at all.
But...I'm just amazed how in two days since the announcement prices went up more than they ever have.
David
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Thu Feb-19-04 07:55 AM
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21. In 2000, Clinton was chastised for not having a "sound energy policy"? |
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Back in about June of 2000 when Chimp was appointed to run for Pres em...suddenly,mysteriously,shockingly after having gas prices during Clinton's Presidency of about $1.20-1.35 here in Wichita they went through the roof and almost made it to $1.70.
Bush didn't have his Oil thugs do that on purpose did he?? Nah.. couldn't have. But as usual Clinton got the blame for not having "sound energy policy". It took a few weeks but prices dropped back down to their usual levels.
Fast forward through the three Bush years and prices have been at least 25-35 cents per gallon more than the entire eight years of Clinton. Where's the media outrage now? Who's looking at Chimps energy policy. As usual another free pass by the media Whores.
David
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Thu Feb-19-04 08:17 AM
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22. Average for regular is $1.55 in Atlanta metro area. |
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Thu Feb-19-04 10:25 AM
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23. Price has actually dropped in San Antonio |
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Last week unleaded was $1.57/gal and yesterday it was $1.49/gal. That was at a station next to where I buy "food to put on my family." :evilgrin:
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Thu Feb-19-04 12:10 PM
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but then again, we're always behind the times on everything.
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Thu Feb-19-04 12:14 PM
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26. There are probably 200 million people riding scooters in India... |
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...And they get about 100 MPG.
What happens when even half of them decide that with their new job at a US corporate telephone bank, they are going to upgrade their transportation to a car that gets 20-30 MPG?
Gas is going to get even more expensive.
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Thu Feb-19-04 03:28 PM
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for premium in Chicago.
we always get hit hard, but not as hard as some others.
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