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qijackie Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:01 PM
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letter to Nader's group
Here is my letter to Nader's group -
I suggest more of you plead with him not to run. http://www.naderexplore04.org/contact.html


Hello Mr. Nader,
Please, please, please do NOT run in the 2004 election. We desperately need to defeat Bush and every vote for you is (essentially) a vote for him because if you weren't on the ticket, that person would vote for the Democratic candidate.
But you know that.
So what could possess you to run yet again? Unless you are for Bush?
Please, please don't run.
Sincerely,
my name, city
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:04 PM
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1. He needs to work on that massive ego of his
He lives in a fantasy world or something
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EDT Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:09 PM
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4. Massive Ego??? If it wasn't for him I would have brought a Corvair !
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:10 PM
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5. My Letter To Nader
sent 1 month ago. Honestly, sometimes I think he doesn't care (or really is for Bush), but I had to try:

I read your "16 Issues" and yes, the country should have a discussion about them. A lot of the Democratic Presidential candidates are close to your beliefs, and even have proposals or ideas of how to work toward these goals. These issues are important, and perhaps it is time for a true discussion of them. Yet our country is not currently in a position where we can afford a second term of George W. Bush. Period.
The Democratic Presidential candidate cannot fight and win a war on two fronts. George W. Bush and the Republicans will certainly use the "Liberal" label. Unfortunately, many Americans have come to see this word negatively. The Democratic candidate will have to "play down" some of his more progressive ideas, something he will not be able to do if you are attacking his left flank, accusing him of being too conservative and no different than Bush.
There are times Democrats have stood up and it has benefited us (George H.W. Bush refused to sign FMLA, Bill Clinton made it law; George W. Bush is seeking to strip away overtime pay, the Democratic candidates are all opposed.) I can also point out situations when lack of numbers prevented the Democrats from doing what they needed to do to protect us against corporate greed (President Clinton and the Democrats tried to push for stronger regulations and corporate oversight, the Republicans successfully fought it - it is likely that had the Democrats been successful, the Enron disaster never would have happened.) Admittedly, at times there seems to be little difference between Republicans and Democrats on some issues. We could see this as a lack of choice for the American people, or, the spirit of bipartisan compromise.
These "16 Issues" are important, and perhaps have not been given adequate attention. The main reason we cannot have another Bush term is this: the judicial branch of our government. As it is now, the balance between conservative-appointed "strict constructionist" and progressive judges is precarious. The next president will appoint several Federal Judges, and likely at least one Supreme Court justice who may hear cases on some of these issues:
* George W. Bush and many Republicans are strongly determined to severely restrict our reproductive freedom.
Most Democrats are committed to protecting a woman's right to choose.
* George W. Bush and many Republicans want to renew the Patriot Act, make it permanent.
Most Democrats recognize that the Patriot Act was passed hurriedly, under duress and it is time to revisit the provisions as compromising of our individual liberties.
* George W. Bush and many Republicans seem to want to use Constitutional amendments to restrict our freedom while falsely presenting the amendments as "protection" or "defense":
- They support a constitutional amendment to "protect" the flag. Most Democrats may condemn flag desecration, but recognize it as protected freedom of expression.
- They want to use federal law to define marriage as between a man and a woman. Most of the current Democratic candidates have either stood up in favor of civil union benefits for homosexuals or spoken against the U.S. government prohibiting homosexuals from gaining these rights.
What types of judges and justices will be appointed over the next five years? And how will they define (interpret) our laws? By the Judicial appointees President Bush has nominated so far, it is obvious that we could not rely on him to make the same "mistake" his father did (in appointing Souter.) Do you really think there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans on the types of judges a President would appoint?
There is too much at stake to have the Republicans keep control of the White House. We cannot allow them (and their appointees) to control all three branches of our government. I urge you to consider this when you think about running.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:05 PM
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2. For people who want to ask Nader not to run for President in 2004
Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 07:06 PM by Eric J in MN
The email address is:
info@naderexplore04.org


Include your full-name and address, because the website says it will disregard email which doesn't.

I mentioned that I would support Nader if he ran for Congress, but will not support him as a 2004 Presidential candidate.
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BradCKY Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:08 PM
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3. If Only Nader Listened
I am truly convinced he doesn't even care about the consequences of another 4 years of Bush, but instead to promote his own name.

I think that many people who voted Nader in 2000 and then saw the election will realize why it is SO important to vote democrat.

If somebody says Gore is no different than Bush I ask you to look at ALL that Bush has done and ask yourself if that is how Gore would have acted.

I just hope that people realize this is not the time for a protest candidate, but instead to protest Bush.
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trekbiker Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:18 PM
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6. Nader could throw it again...
This election could be just as close as in 2000. the country is evenly split (polls this early in the game dont mean a whole lot)

Think of what a different world we would be in RIGHT NOW if Nader had not run in 2000. 9/11 might possibly have even been avoided as Gore would not have ignored the threat Bin Laden posed. At the very least, we wouldn't be in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan would be properly prosecuted, ie., Warlords disarmed, heroin trade shut down, Bin Laden likely captured or killed by now.

Nader has become a pathetic shadow of the great man he once was..
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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:25 PM
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7. Open letter to Ralph Nader
Dear Mr. Nader

I am in great awe of your unwavering support of consumer rights throughout your life. You may have saved tens of thousands of lives though your activism.

However sir, I would strongly urge you to NOT run again for the Presidency. I do agree that both sides have become far too beholden to corporate interests. However, I realize that a president without a congressional delegation would be virtually powerless.

Instead of running for president, I would strongly urge you to run for Senator or Congressman in your home state. The House and Senate need far more attention from an individual of your tireless activism and disposition. A president is forced to make profound compromises in order to keep governement running. However, a Senator or Congressman CAN stay true to the cause (Barney Frank, Dennis Kucinich) while still providing a positive affect on government.

I look forward to the day when I can address you as the Honorable Ralph Nader. You will make a GREAT legislature if you decide to embark on that endeavor.


Thank You.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:59 PM
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8. He claims that those who ask him not to run are not allowing
him hisfreedom and right.

In his younger days he would have known the difference between what he's legally allowed to do and what is expedient for the good of the cuontry and also legal.

His life long contribution burst in my estimation like a burst balloon. How'd you burst it Ralph - I personally think you decided you liked money alot - do you still have money in investment trusts that include war weapons and polluter corporations? I'd like to know if you were able to keep some of the money in 2000?

Still bitter and becoming more bitter every time I think about how bad I knew it was going to be and discovering I didn't imagine it as bad as its been. Ralph, did you hear of PNAC when you ran? Have you heard of PNAC since you ran?

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GreyV Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 08:23 PM
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9. Go Nader Go!
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