Help me understand what is supposed to happen on June 30th in Iraq

[Paragon]

I literally do not understand what the Bush Administration has in mind when they say they're "handing over power" on that day. Would someone familiar with their rhetoric explain it to me?

How do you hand over power to people who won't be elected?

That doesn't mean the troops are pulling out then, too - does it?

[Mari333]

1. Troops told they will be in 5 years or more today

Its called Iraqnam now..and I can only WISH the troops would be sent home now.in the meantime, they are trying to make it LOOK like everything is honky dory and make it LOOK like it was okay to invade for no fucking reason and based on lies. The propoganda on TV is so thick today it makes me want to vomit.

[DuctapeFatwa]

2. They will have a ceremony for the native overseers they have chosen

and the US crusadenets will cover it extensively, and 80% of the people if asked will say that Iraq has been liberated and restored to pro-American democracy.

The crusaders will continue to slaughter Iraqis and steal the oil, but it will receive even less coverage in the media than it does now.

Any paper who does cover it will be declared unreliable, anti-American, and a terrorist propaganda mouthpiece.

[diamond14]

3. all hell will break loose, as OUR troops retreat to positions where

they ONLY serve to protect the oil pipeline and refining facilities....everything and everybody else will be on their own...

and small groups of highly screened and regulated Iraqi citizens will be bussed out daily to the oil pipelines and refining facilities to work for slave-wages....

over-all, it'll be an exact duplicate of what bush* grandpa prescott did for nazi germany in the Auschwitz steel and coal mining areas of poland....it will not be televised, and we will not know that it is happening...all we will see is more 'happy Iraqi' photos and more propaganda from the pResident about how successful the whole operation is....any Iraqis not willing to participate will die pretty quick from third-world sanitation, lack of medical care, depleted uranium and other environmental pollutants left by OUR troops, no food or jobs, or execution....bush* knows how to do this, because his grandfather prescott did exactly that to Jewish slave labor in Poland, in a place called Auschwitz....

brief overview: bush* $$$$ inheritance...Holocaust blood money from working people to death in the coalfields and steelmills of Poland
http://www.clamormagazine.org/bush.pdf

[Sagan]

4. this is what is SUPPOSED to happen

On June 30th the Coalition Provisional Authority, or CPA, which is headed by Bremer and controlled by the Pentagon, goes away and full sovereign powers are then invested in the Iraqi governing council. What takes the place of the CPA is the American embassy presence.

Thus, Rummy and Perle dump their mess into Powell's lap and say "mission accomplished!" and Bremer comes home.

No one yet knows to what Iraqi organization power will be turned over to. That is what this elections/caucus brou-ha-ha is all about.

Now, what WILL happen on June 30th? Who knows? But the whole thing is suitably Byzantine and thus will quickly slide downhill into civil war, if you ask me.

[Paragon]

5. And does that affect the quantity of troops there and/or their placement?

Once again, asking what is SUPPOSED to happen.

[Paragon]

6. Anyone?

Anyone?

[Mari333]

7. Heres one of the liars estimates

WASHINGTON - The top U.S. military officer said Thursday he could not estimate with confidence how long American forces will have to stay in Iraq.

"I really do believe it's unknowable," said Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in an interview with a group of reporters. "If I gave a good professional estimate, then that would be a standard that people would point to and, knowing that we can't know it perfectly, we'd get hammered."

Myers also said he was not worried about the possibility that the Iraqis will ask U.S. forces to leave the country once Iraqi sovereignty is restored this summer: "That is not a particular concern."

Pressed on the matter of how long U.S. forces might stay, Myers said, "There is not a range in my own mind."

"We're going to have to let events dictate" when the military can leave, he said.

His statement echoed a White House report presented to Congress this week. "It is not possible to know at this time either the duration of military operations or the scope and duration of the deployment of U.S. armed forces necessary for the full accomplishment of our goals," the report said.






http://www.houmatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040219/API/402190737

[mike1963]

8. It slightly decreases troop deployment. Placement will be decided on a

day to day basis. Plan A, circle cities and control who goes in and out. Plan B, since A didn't work, is go back into the cities to help the fragmented Iraqi 'security forces' get things "back in control."

Continue alternating A and B as long as necessary. At some point in time, somebody (Halliburton/Cheney) will decide what necessary means and figure out a way to extend it for a few more decades.

[F.Gordon]

10. It hasn't been decided

Seriously.

The United States had planned to hold 18 regional caucuses throughout Iraq to select members of a new legislature, which would in turn name a government to take power July 1. However, the Shiite demands and growing opposition among Iraqi leaders to the caucus idea has thrown that plan into doubt.

....another....

Meanwhile, the top U.S. military officer said Thursday he could not estimate with confidence how long American forces will have to stay in Iraq.

For planning purposes, the Army is assuming it will have to keep roughly 100,000 troops in Iraq for at least another two years, other officials have said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/19/iraq/main594228.shtml

They've been constantly writing and re-writing their plan for "handing over democracy" to Iraq.

The June 30th time table is very important to the Bush* campaign, so they'll come up with something. Bush* has to be able to elevate the rw noise level during the July Dem Convention, and he has to be able to go into the GOP Convention in September and proclaim that "Iraq is now a Free Democracy".

Even CBS has it nailed (another snip)....

The Bush administration wants to end the occupation well ahead of the November presidential election in the United States to minimize Iraq as a campaign issue.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

9. Good question.

Coalition Provisional Authority (Bremer, white men) "cedes" authority to the U.S. picked Iraqi Governing Council (Chalabi, dark skinned puppets). Probably at least as many (100K) U.S. troops will be necessary in the country as Chalabi & Co. have no legitimacy and their lives wouldn't be worth a plugged nickel if the troops left. Any troop "pullout" before the NOV US election will either be "token" (20-30K) just to "look like" we are leaving, or just some kind of rotation, with the emphasis on the leaving troops.

The US troops cannot leave under this scenario because they are the only thing propping up the illegitimate IGC.

This is one thing that really bugs me about all "big" media, the pro Bush propaganda way they report this. The news stories are invariably about "when the US turns over power to the Iraqis in June". So many Americans are so uninformed that they may actually believe this.

What the media should START saying is, "when the US turns power over to the US-picked Iraqi Governing Council."