Sub Atomic
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Fri Feb-20-04 11:17 AM
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Four Score and Seven Years Ago |
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our fathers brought forth upon this continent a new nation: conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
So why, as a gay man, am I not being treated equal?
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Az
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Fri Feb-20-04 11:21 AM
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Stating the ideal is easy. Getting there is hard. Belief is a difficult thing to overcome. There are still prejudices in this society and gays will not be the last to go.
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Fri Feb-20-04 11:25 AM
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it's never been clear to me whether women are protected under the clause "all men are created equal".
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Fri Feb-20-04 11:29 AM
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This sits are the core of much of our culture wars. On the one hand you have the forces insisting that there is a concrete set of morality and they just happen to have the text detailing it.
On the other side you have those that realise that our sense of right and wrong is a changing thing. That what was once considered proper is now viewed with horror. Our growing understanding of the world around us allows us to make better more informed descisions about morality. Thus women were at one time considered little more than property and now are considered (by most) to be equal in the eyes of the law.
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Fri Feb-20-04 11:26 AM
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3. Early Repub exclusion? Repubs like to say that they have |
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the "big tent".
Funny thing is, admission is expensive, and exclusive.
The statement was made back when "All Men" meant males; a lot of people didn't like the idea of "All Men" including non-white males.
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Fri Feb-20-04 11:27 AM
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4. Because you are considered a "criminal" |
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Sinners are "criminals" in the eyes of religionists, and as we all know, "criminals" have their rights taken away in our country.
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Robroy
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Fri Feb-20-04 11:27 AM
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5. The Republican Interpretation.. |
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is that some men are created more equal than others. Some born to rule, some to serve.
But what about "our inalienable rights to life, liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness?" Pursuit of Happiness, hogwash. We can pursue so long as we do not upset the republicans' homophobic view that 'marriage' must be between a man and a woman.
Their new mantra is "we will get government off your backs and into your bedrooms." lol
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Fri Feb-20-04 11:30 AM
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you are about to be the target of even more right wing frenzied concern. You have my full and total support, but the press won't tell you that, so come back here when you need to be reminded. Not only do you need full rights as a citizen, you deserve them completely and I will work to see that your rights are restored as a fellow citizen. So why, as a single female with children, do I care? Because this administration is unjustly prying into all our bedrooms and stripping our civil liberties to the bone. You are not alone. This is about all of us and our hope for a better future.
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Fri Feb-20-04 12:48 PM
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8. Not to change the subject, but what truly inspiring words.... |
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And you know Lincoln wrote them. Can you imagine Bush* being required to write his own speeches? Not since Kennedy have we had someone who could have put something like the Gettysburg address together, although I have to say that Clinton might well have been the exception....
Ahhh, to live in a time when intellect and verbal acuity (and sincere passion for ideals) is considered desirable and not "elitist."
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