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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:12 PM
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Laura Ingraham on gay marriage - founding fathers would be shocked
She said this last night.

This, of course, in the context that the founding fathers are all hallowed icons.

I (and I hope others) at once thought of other things the founding fathers would be shocked about...

...the end of slavery

...votes for Blacks

...votes for women

as well as such things as atomic bombs, TV, radio, the internet,...

I hope other listeners might have begun to question the meme of 'the original intent' of the writers of the constitution and having to interpret everything in the context of the world of the late 1700s.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:15 PM
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1. Flaming Fathers
Didn't the founding "fathers" dress up in powdered wigs and tights?

Maybe Laura should reconsider...

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:16 PM
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2. The Founders would also be shocked the Laura Ingraham can Vote
but they did know that times would change thus
they gave us a Constitution that would allow increasing
Freedom and Liberty for all Americans .

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distortionmarshall Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:50 PM
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15. ahhhhh.......
nothing has quite as much inertia as the ahistorical white man....

lol - the founding fathers weren't prescient any more than we are - they had no idea whatsoever that the various changes mentioned in this thread would take place.... they surely would've fought tooth n nail against the bulk of them, in fact...
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:17 PM
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3. I wish we could build her a time machine.
Then she could really enjoy the 18th century lifestyle.

You know what else would really shock the Founding Fathers? That we let Papists become citizens, and even run for President.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:19 PM
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5. Such a machine already exists.
It's called Flight 746 to Afghanistan.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:23 PM
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9. yep,
Boarding Now
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:19 PM
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4. Well then let's turn the clock back to 1776
We can bring back slavery
Take the vote away from women and those who don't own property
Repeal all the ammendments to the Constitution
Give back California and Texas to Mexico
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:20 PM
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7. Give back ... Texas to Mexico
What did the Mexicans ever do to you?
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Damn Hippie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:19 PM
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6. They would be shocked
that Laura has a forum to express her opinion, let alone vote.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:22 PM
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8. Some of the founding fathers were having sex with their slaves.
Heck, they might have even had sex with MALE slaves.

Laura is an ignorant, non-thinking media whore.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:26 PM
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10. The great thing about them
Is that they knew that what shocked them might not shock us, and gave us the means to give the vote to Blacks and women, and end slavery.

Those amendments were damn successful. The one amendment that wasn't successful was the one that told people what was good for them: we had to repeal Prohibition. All it did was make criminals rich. Did we learn from that? No. We prohibit addictive drugs and make criminal empires of wealth.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:27 PM
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11. Which of the founding fathers were gay?
Probably several.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:38 PM
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12. just what I was thinking
my husband told me that people from all over the country were sending flowers anonymously to those marrying in SF. I thought that was really cool and sweet. When was the last time that many people rushed to get married, when you think about it, other than for money, performance art extravaganza or a Rev. Moon event! The folks in SF really want to get married and that should be good enough for the "backward thinking."
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:48 PM
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14. GW?
Well, there were always rumors when I was growing up that the Father of our Country, George Washington, was gay. Not sure if that was true or not...
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:43 PM
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13. I think Laura would be shocked
to find that homosexuality existed since time began, even in the world of the founding fathers – conceivably even including a founding father or two.
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:54 PM
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16. Also
voting for non-property holders.

*gasp!
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:54 PM
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17. oops
Edited on Fri Feb-20-04 01:55 PM by BigBigBear
dupe
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:58 PM
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18. Additional items:
Our urban society -- many, including Jefferson, wanted a rural society.

International treaties, treaty organizations (e.g., NATO), the UN -- many wanted the U.S. to avoid international entanglements.

A standing military.

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