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wtf Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 03:57 AM
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Something I've noticed..
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 03:58 AM by wtf
I'm rather new to the blog craze, and political commentary via the internet in general, and I've noticed something kind of interesting (to me at least) on the right-leaning blogs and websites, it seems like there's an amazing amount of space taken up creating odd theories and.....well, attempting to psychologically analyze "liberals," and then making an argument against people on the left based solely on the author's bizarre conclusions. Here's an example of what I'm talking about, something I found quoted and linked at instapundit.com:

Something about this war is eating Bush's detractors alive, something unquantifiable with conventional weights and measures. I think that it is because if George W. Bush really did lie (and thus surprising both the Right and Left), the anti-war crowd would still have to face a disheartening Spectacle of Freedom For An Entire People, instead of the more satisfactory Humiliation Of Bush At The United Nations And Mass Graves Nobody Knows About.

That simple.

Nothing is more irritating than watching your enemies fail to live up to your worst expectations. If George W. was hawking stolen museum art, or John Ashcroft was forcing Shiites to convert, or Dick Cheney was sucking the oil from Iraqi teenager's skin, the Left would have far lower blood pressure. They would be relieved, vindicated, because the war would be delightfully immoral.

The anti-war crowd long ago started measuring themselves as culturally, intellectually, and morally superior to the pro-war crowd, instead of measuring whether their policies were superior. Thus, the incredible success in Afghanistan and Iraq is not a blow to their policy, it is a blow to their ego and sense of self.


One or two pieces like this wouldn't raise my eyebrow, but it mirrors so much of what I hear and read from the right, that it almost seems like a phenomenon.

Has anyone else noticed this, or am I losing my marbles?
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 03:59 AM
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1. When one has no facts with which to debate
one must think up crazy concotions of denial to figure out why the other side doesn't believe the pink dragon you do
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 04:00 AM
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2. Trouble is, there is no "incredible success"...
They can't get by their own propagandized minds.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 04:06 AM
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3. Spectacle of Freedom
Now that is ironic.

George would never hawk stolen museum art to weird.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 04:20 AM
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4. The civil war is coming and that dog will die too. They can't
make this right no matter what they say and do.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 04:20 AM
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5. I really think they're just regurgitating the tripe they've read.
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 04:26 AM by Cat Atomic
That's how Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. write. They write that way because they don't research anything.

Why don't they research anything? I think there are a few reasons.

First, they simply aren't the brightest bulbs in the drawer, and I doubt they know how to research.

Second, their books target people who don't generally buy books, and aren't interested in research. They want emotional, entertaining prose, not real policy analysis.

Finally, an honest argument with facts and figures would mean they'd have to be frank about the real motivations of conservative ideas. Their pro-corporate, pro-rich arguments are draped in a kind of false populism. An honest argument would mean removing that drapery.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 05:14 AM
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6. It amazes me
That people cannot think critically. The right wing, BTW, has no exclusive franchise on this defect ... I have witnessed rampant irrationality right here on DU. But that does not adequately explain the depths of unreason one experiences in this country.

Saddam's out of power. Good thing. We paid $200 billion, over 500 American fatalities and (I have read) close to 10,000 other American casualties. How many Iraqi's have died? I have seen no estimates, and that bothers me. We could be competing for Sadamm's murderous stature and not even know it. Saddam is out of power ... but there were cheaper ways to accomplish this ... both in terms of treasure and human blood.

And the net result of this expenditure is likely to be a long civil war in Iraq ... hardly in best keeping of the interests of the average American, IMHO.

What kind of middle class American supports this kind of regime ... the Bush regime? One that is off its meds? I really can't understand it.
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