bbernardini
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Sat Feb-21-04 09:30 AM
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"Majority opposes gay marriage" |
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Once again, the loonies speak out at my local paper. This one never backs up any of her claims. Here's a link to the letter. Please make liberal use of the "Post Your Opinion" option at the bottom of the page. http://www.dailylocal.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=11003713&BRD=1671&PAG=461&dept_id=17785&rfi=6Thanks!
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Sat Feb-21-04 09:39 AM
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1. Are you under the impression that the majority does NOT oppose? |
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Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 09:41 AM by Frodo
I'm not arguing the right or wrong of it. But there is no question that the majority DO oppose "gay marriage".
On edit - Sorry, I just read the first couple paragraphs of the linked article. THAT view is not the overwhelming majority. But I stick by my first sentence.
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Sat Feb-21-04 12:30 PM
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Be careful how you use descriptors (some, many, most, the majority) without having tangible facts to support your claims.
For all I know you are probably talking about the majority of Antartic penguins...KWIM?
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Sat Feb-21-04 09:48 AM
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The majority supported slavery.
The majority opposed mixed marriages.
The majority supported killing witches.
The majority opposed women voting.
The majority supported segregated schools.
The majority has a history of supporting and opposing some really bad ideas. Good thing we have some rights guaranteed that the majority cannot take away.
PS If the majority jumped off a bridge would you?
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Sat Feb-21-04 12:09 PM
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6. "If the majority jumped off a bridge would you?" |
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Not again!!
My knee still hurts from last time...
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Sat Feb-21-04 12:32 PM
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The majority thought the world was flat at one time, as well.
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Silverhair
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Sat Feb-21-04 06:20 PM
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10. But the majority, by their votes, WILL decide the issue. n/t |
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Sat Feb-21-04 09:51 AM
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3. Does Kerry support Gay Marriage... |
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seems he has only come out in favor of civil unions. Kerry needs to show some leadership here.
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:08 AM
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5. Fat chance of that happening. |
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I'm pretty sure he said "marriage is between a man and a woman" or something to that extent. He's shitting his pants over what Rove could do based on what state he's from (MA).
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:06 AM
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4. Time For Perspective... |
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I'm starting to see...other than gays and fundies, this is a definite non-issue. This has no affect on the majority of American's lives and it's easy to see this straw-man issue being used to divert from this regimes miserable economic, security and military record.
The GOOP wants the Democrats to chirp up this issue to divert from their troubles and growing scandals and attempt to scare their hive into formation with that evil scepter of sex/homosexuality. These people never feel comfortable in their skin, thus must climb into yours.
Most people I know understand the disconnect here...the difference between marriage in a legal sense (or civil union or whatever name you want to give it) vs. that in a spiritual/religious sense. The GOOP morans forget that 50% of the people in this country are divorced, thus have had some contact with the divorce court system and the myriad of laws concerning child custody, property and other financial issues. It's a firsthand lesson on the legal side of things...one that scares many away from marrying again.
Thus, while this is an important legal issue for gays, it has no bearing on the rest of the population and I think the shelf-life of this non-issue will yo-yo during the campaign based on the need of RoveCo to keep his horde in line. In fact, this could be a bellweather as to how things are going...if Rove pulls out this issue (or abortion), then we know there's troubles happening in GOOPerland.
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Sat Feb-21-04 12:14 PM
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Sat Feb-21-04 06:25 PM
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11. Wedge issues only need small percentages to work. |
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Blacks are a strong part of our base, and they are 75% opposed to gay marriage. Latinos are also a big part of our base, and they are almost all strongly Roman Catholic, and the famous Latino machismo has little room for gays. If the issue peels off only one in twenty then we get hurt badly in our base.
One in twenty doesn't sound like much, but the effect would be huge. That's why it is called a "wedge issue".
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Sat Feb-21-04 06:35 PM
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12. Uh, the majority of voters do oppose gay marriage |
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Even all of the major Democratic candidates.
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Sat Feb-21-04 06:48 PM
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13. Well, probably a majority do oppose it, but this sentence from the piece |
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Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 06:49 PM by mike1963
is interesting: " If gays, then polygamists, then close relatives - why not just good friends? " ------------------------------------------------------------- Is "Nancy" (an interesting name given the subject) proposing that most "regular" marriages are entered into by casual acquaintenances? I know a lot of m/f married people and pretty damn sure they were "good friends" before making their commitments... :eyes:
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