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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 06:27 PM
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BTW, What do those Gay Pubs have to say about Their Party
who deny them getting married?

And all that nasty stuff about Gays, like they from another planet??

Are they comfortable with this very divisive wedge issue?

Do they bite their lips when the subject comes up?

Are most of them in the CLOSET?

They must be saying something other than "Gays for the Republican Party"

Where are those guys?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 06:29 PM
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1. They're rationalizing . . .
. . . that the gay marriage issue isn't that important, that low taxes, "more jobs" (though where they get that from is a mystery), less "government intrusion (ditto), blah bla, are all more important than that one issue.

Idiots.
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 06:30 PM
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2. good question
even my republican mother said that gays and conservatives don't mix. I am very much curious as to what made them choose to align themselves with the repubs
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:46 AM
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10. I believe it's due
to the Log Cabins wanting to push the party back to its more libertarian leanings. You know, get government out of our lives.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 04:51 AM
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15. Its the love/hate thingy?? Who the hell knows?
:)
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 06:31 PM
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3. The log cabin republicans . . .
Have not responded to california action but do have a press release at their website http://www.lcr.org
<snip>
“Writing discrimination into the Constitution is wrong. It is not conservative, it is not Republican, and it will not strengthen America,” said Log Cabin Executive Director Patrick Guerriero, in response to the President’s possible support of an anti-family Constitutional amendment.

</snip>
While in the same breath defending the DOMA act (or at least pointing out it is law til SOMEONE ELSE tries to do something

<snip>
The 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) is the law of the land. DOMA means no state shall have to recognize marriages or civil unions from another state. There is no case before any court in America challenging the Defense of Marriage Act.
</snip>

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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 06:33 PM
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4. better than nothing I guess
I know alot of people that are against gay marriage, but have bigger reservations about a consitutional amendment
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 06:36 PM
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5. Isn't this DOMA ACT Insane??
The State of (pick one), does not have to recognize my marriage??
What the hell is that??
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 06:51 PM
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6. I wrote a letter to the editor
in California after some guy wrote in he was appalled that homosexuals would ignore the law and get married. I responded that I was appalled too--that all these californians would ignore the state constitution that bars laws from granting rights and privledges to one group over another by voting in the prop 22 (marriage between man and woman only).

DOMA is going to be challenged. California on the west coast and Mass. on the East Coast will allow marriages then those couples will challenge the federal law because states must provide equal protections.

It is a cop out by the log cabins to say "that is the law so we'd better fall in line". When the law is wrong it needs to be challenged be everyone.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:26 PM
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7. I concur, the Pubs gatta wake up and catch up with Life, Liberty, and
the Pursuit of Happiness.

This is the Land of the Free?
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:49 AM
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11. Yeah, they want "equal rights"
But they would turn around and cheer for cuts for poor folk that left them on the edge of not surviving.

Nope, ain't gonna worry about folks who don't care what happens to other folks.

Cuz we're all in this together, even though they just don't get that.

Kanary
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:36 PM
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8. What do the Log Cabin guys gain personally, from switching
to Dems? They are presumably gaining (not earning) their livings from being 'gay repubs'. If they switched, they would be gay Dems; in what way is that remarkable, or deserving of a national organisation? That is ONE reason they remain repub.

The tax cuts might be another.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 12:43 AM
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9. They would gain in many ways
Edited on Mon Feb-23-04 12:44 AM by opihimoimoi
Less Hate
More Fun

Less anti Gay Laws
More consideration

Less Fear
More Stability

Less Closet time
More self esteem

Less Lying
More Freedom

Less anxiety
More Poi

Come. we go eat

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TheWhitneyBrown Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:32 AM
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12. Log Cabin Republican: A man who is torn between his love for
other men and his love for money.
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TheWhitneyBrown Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:34 AM
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13. Log Cabin Republican: A man who cannot decide
By whom he prefers to be shunned.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 04:33 AM
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14. Luv it, The poor things, gatta luv that LIMBO
They are in a Party that HATES them? WTF is THAT?
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