Nader didn't cause the 2000 election coup d'etat

[donsu]

he was just a player for the bloody hands bushgang.

Nader has always been a strange dude. long, long ago I read an article about him with pics, telling of his strange personal life.

[Gman]

1. No he didn't but

his candidacy created the perfect circumstances for the coup to happen. Had Nader not been on the ballot in FL the fiasco would never have happened. That cannot be denied.

[lovedems]

2. No shit!

No Nader=No recount=No Bush. It is really quite simple.

[Lindacooks]

13. You're exactly right!

Nader is an enabler to the dark side.

[donsu]

3. they would have had the coup without him

Nader just helped it along. along with all the other BBV that went on in Fl. and all the other states.

[mobuto]

4. Harris stole about 500 votes

Nader stole 50,000 votes. Nader is to blame for Florida, much more so than anybody else.

And notice his principled stand during the recount fiasco? He said not one word.

[forgethell]

7. Wait a minute

I missed that. running for office is stealing votes? I don't think so. Maybe Gorre would have gotten them, maybe not. But how do you get by with calling it stealing??

[dansolo]

9. Harris stole 90,000 votes

Harris was responsible for a lot more than 500 votes. She was the one who got all of the people illegally taken off the voter roles. Nader lied, no question about it, but ultimately it was the votes who cast their votes. If you want to blame Nader, then you could just as easily blame Gore for not educating the voters how Ralph Nader was wrong.

[Gman]

11. 'scuse me, but I don't believe there was hardly any BBV in 2000

try again.

[adriennel]

5. he was not the root cause

for the 2000 election coup de'tat but he was a significant factor in the outcome. this is what bugs me the most about anti-Nader tirades. If Nader did not run in 2000, Gore would have won. This very well may be true. Nader votes definately hurts the Dems. But the results of the 2000 "election" were a string of strange events, biased political pressure, stealing votes in Florida, the Supreme Court "non-precedent" setting ruling, etc. I'm still trying to rationalize how GW became president and this is a question that will be examined for a long time to come. Nader was a factor, but one in a series of events. I do not know why he wants to run for President now. I supported his attempts at third-party recognition. Now I'm not even sure what or who he stands for this time around. He does not have the backing of an established third party. please note that I have never voted for Nadar nor do I intend to. But I sure wish the Nader bashing would cease. Now we're giving him a ton of free publicity when we should be ignoring him and focusing on Dem strengths.

[John_H]

6. Can you find the article?Do you remember which publication?

[Camaro]

8. Nader is not to blame

Gore pulled the majority of the votes but the repukes messed around and got some conservative judges to get him in office. Any way you look at it Gore got the majority of the votes so I don't think Nader affected things that much.

[donsu]

10. no, it was in the 60s/70s I think - when he was big news for all his

speaking out on safty issues and the enviro

there for awhile he was on the news a lot, speaking out and fighting for issues. he wasn't a politician or lobbyist at that time.

and women wondered about him being a good husband catch.

[donsu]

12. sorry if I put this in the wrong forum

it hasn't penetrated my brain yet that he is running again. I was brushing that off as with a nat.

[VOX]

14. Nader did cause a loss in New Hampshire, which set the stage in Florida...

http://www.fairvote.org/plurality/nader.htm
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0876793.html

Nader's 22,188 votes in far outstripped the 7,211 votes separating state winner Bush from Gore.

Bush 273,559
Gore 266,348
Nader 22,198

New Hampshire's 4 electoral votes went to Bush, who with Florida, got 271 electoral votes.

If Bush didn't take New Hampshire with the help of Nader, and if its 4 electoral votes then went to Gore, Gore would have won the election with 270 electoral votes.