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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:38 PM
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*'s old flame says he didn't bail on Guard; lived like a pig, though
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"I know he served," says Birmingham, Ala., lawyer Mavanee Bear, who went by the name Nee Hudson when the two were an item back in the summer of 1973.

"I didn't see him in uniform," she told Mayer, but there were "plenty of times" that Bush had to reschedule meetings because of Guard duty.

(snip)

Bear said Bush took plenty of heat for being the son of a Vietnam War-supporting congressman, even though he was privately anguished over the war.

"He never would have spoken up about it publicly, because of his father," she said. "Everywhere he went he encountered a lot of animosity from people who didn't even know him, because of his father. I remember taking him with me to a lovely party, and a drunken person came up to him and said, 'You're a piece of s-, just like your father.' ... People were just awful to him."

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But Bear said her beau was a slob. "His apartment in Houston was really crappy. He sure didn't live fancy. I mean, you wouldn't want to sit down. It was just a dump!"

When not at home, "he lived out of the backseat of his Oldsmobile. It was also filthy - just littered with tennis shoes and tennis rackets and wrappers. It was a mess!"

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/166987p-146053c.html
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:40 PM
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1. I guess "guard duty" was a good alibi....
to do whatever and not see her.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:42 PM
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2. Reschedule meetings? Him? Meetings? About what?
...the differance between a kilo and a pound?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:42 PM
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3. 'You're a piece of s-, just like your father.'
credit those people with foresight.

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:17 PM
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12. He still hears that daily :) n/t
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:42 PM
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4. That is exactly what this is
It's gossip. Nothing more. And from a RW rag yet.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:53 PM
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8. The N.Y. Daily News isn't as bad as the N.Y. Post
but it ain't exactly the N.Y. Times, either.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:14 PM
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10. It's also in the New Yorker
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:46 PM
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5. bush* was 're-scheduling' because he had another S&F....


Ms. Velvet LaBouche: Oh sure I knew George Bush in Alabama. He was always around the house in 1972. In fact, all the girls missed him so much when he left for Harvard, we made up a little rhyme to remember him by: "Georgie Porgie, pudding and pie, serviced us gals till our cooters went dry. When Madame Sophie collected the tab, Georgie Porgie was teeming with crabs!"


Ms. Randi Ryder: Oh he was in Alabama, all right. I remember like yesterday him snorting a line that went clear from my tushy to toenails on a cold metal picnic table out back of a bar in Tuscaloosa. Now, if you could get the boy to drop his drawers, I'd be extra positive. I never forget a dick.



http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2004/021104.asp
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EXE619K Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:50 PM
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7. Ewwwwww.....
Thanks a lot!

I think I'll just forfeit my lunch now...

Geesh.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:15 PM
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11. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PRICELESS!!

:thumbsup:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:39 PM
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16. She had a chance to improve on Nee Hudson and chose Mavanee Bear?
That shoots her credibility to hell right there! P.S. Why would a lawyer want to practice under two names?

:headbang:
rocknation
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:06 PM
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19. I THINK the "Nee Hudson"
refers to her former last name ("nee" meaning "formerly").

At least, that is what I learned from Margaret Raitz, the Social reporter for the Palmyra and Martinsburg township beat of the Hector Mirror (my hometown rag).
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:49 PM
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6. Is she implying George was ANTI-war? But gutless?
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:03 PM
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9. The dates here don't add up
Bush was in Alabama from May to December of 1972. By January, he was back in Houston doing that stint with PULL. And in the spring and summer of 1973, he was putting in time with the National Guard in Houton -- not Alabama -- before going off to Harvard in the fall.

The likeliest conclusion is that the old girlfriend is misremembering and it was really the summer of '72 -- but that would run into the same problem as the Calhoun account, namely that Bush didn't even have an assignment to any Alabama unit at the time. Something is definitely screwy in this account.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 06:13 PM
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17. There were more details given on another thread
The old girlfriend said they dated in Houston in the summer of 1973, but they met during the Blount campaign in Alabama in 1972.

She also said that she never saw Bush in uniform in Alabama, but that everyone knew he was in the National Guard because he frequently asked to have meetings rescheduled so he could go to trainings. That's the part that still doesn't add up -- unless Bush was lying about what he was up to even back in 1972.
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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:18 PM
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13. His apartment in Houston was really crappy.
Wait! Hold up! She's got the wrong city and state!

Why would he have an apartment in HOUSTON when he was serving in ALABAMA?

Is there a city named Houston, Alabama?????
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:28 PM
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14. who cares about 'the summer of '73' ???
isn't it the '72 dates that * went missing?

(actually, he was in Houston, working 'community service' at PULL but BIG question is why he did the service as it is the ONLY time in his life he did anything approaching 'community service'...

and, really, who cares? this is the weakest element of the AWOL story.

tens of thousands were spent on his training and he blew it off by refusing a mandatory physical... without any consequences.

that, imho, is where the pressure should be applied
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:38 PM
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15. "He lived like a pig." Maybe that's why he bought the pig farm
in Crawford.

"His apartmnt in Houston was really crappy. He sure didn't live fancy. I mean, you wouldn't want to sit down. It was just a dump!"

"When not at home, he lived out of the backseat of his Oldmobile. It was also filthy - just littered with tennis shoes and tennis rackets and wrappers. It was a mess"


Once a pig...always a pig! Oink, oink!

:evilgrin:
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 06:40 PM
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18. The way this woman describes him Bush sounds like a druggie. nt
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 11:50 PM
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20. Reschedule meetings?
Oh, Mavanee, honey. Let me explain it to you: Capt. Cuntsman was "on duty" all right. He was just seeking some new encounters.

(You'd think a lawyer would have figured it out, but I guess her ego or naivete got in the way.)
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