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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 06:47 PM
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Alabama proposal protects teaching creation | Montgomery Advertiser
Edited on Mon Feb-23-04 06:47 PM by DinoBoy
Sorry this isn't more timely (written 18 Feb) but I was just notified of this through email, and it doesn't appear to have been posted yet at DU

Proposal protects teaching creation

By Regan Loyola Connolly
Montgomery Advertiser

An area lawmaker introduced a bill in the state legislature Tuesday that calls for legal protection for any student or teacher who wants to discuss creationism in a public classroom.

Sen. Wendell Mitchell, D-Luverne, said the current course of study taught in Alabama's public schools provides a biased lesson on the origins of humankind.

"I think there is a tremendous ill-balance in the classroom when you can't discuss all viewpoints," he said. "This bill will level the playing field because it allows a teacher to bring forward the biblical creation story of humankind."

The bill was sent to committee for review Tuesday. Currently, public science teachers are required to teach the theory of evolution, but the course of study stresses that evolution is a theory that has not actually been observed by scientists.

Karen Burghardt, president of the Montgomery Parent Teacher Association, said she supports the legislation, but believes it will spark a controversy among parents.

More at the Montgomery Advertiser
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 06:53 PM
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1. don't B lookin'
4 any 'bama Nobel laureates in the future!
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:00 PM
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2. Evidently actual science is out of fashion these days...
as evidenced by the recent missive signed by loads of well respected scientists airing grievances with this admin's treatment of rational thought.... and evidence.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:08 PM
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3. My take on Evolutionary "Theory"
Inside the Black Box


When I was a freshman in high school, back in 1974, my science teacher, Mr. Riblett, started our science instruction with a simple experiment. He handed each of us a small, black wooden box. The box was hollow, and completely sealed; there was no way to open or see inside the box.

When we picked up our box, it became apparent that there was, indeed, something inside of it. When you moved it, it made a sound. Mine made a sound like something rolling around - perhaps a ball or a marble. My neighbor's box made a different sound altogether - it made a rolling sound if you moved it one direction, but a sliding sound if you tilted it another way. Other boxes made rattling noises, as if filled with plastic pieces. One box made no sound at all.

Our task was to determine what was in our box, and to explain why we believed this to be true. A master teacher, Mr. Riblett was teaching us to formulate a hypothesis (There is a ball in this box), determine an appropriate experiment, (I will tilt the box in various directions, I will flip it on all of its sides, I will shake it, and observe what happens), a set of observations (I will listen to the sounds emanating from the box from various angles, I will have my friends listen, I will feel the change in weight as I tilt the box), and how to come to a conclusion, based on the observations (I conclude that inside this box is a small, hard sphere, approximately 1 cm in diameter).

After we shared our conclusions, Mr. Riblett gathered up the boxes and put them away. We were aghast! "What's in the box?!" we demanded, as Mr. Riblett slyly ignored our pleas. "The important thing to remember," he told us, "is that you don't always get to open the box."

We hear a lot about the dichotomy between "theory" and "truth." Evolution is often assailed as "just a theory"; as something that cannot be proven, therefore it should not be treated as truth. In Kansas, and most recently in Georgia, it was recommended that the teaching of evolution be deemphasized, or even eliminated, in favor of religion-based proposals, such as "intelligent design." This does a great disservice to students in our schools.

Consider the theory of the atom. The United States was able to carry out the splitting of an atom based on an incomplete theory of the atom's structure, developed by Niels Bohr. To this day, no one has been able to "open the box" on the atom, but we can and do use the existing theory to spring forward to new and more exciting advances.

In the same way, no one can "open the box" of evolution. The value of the theory lies in the mountain of evidence that has been accumulated over the years since Darwin published On the Origin of Species in 1859. Biologists, geneticists, paleontologists, chemists, and many others have observed the box over the years, and have refined our view of the contents tremendously. This theory is not a mere "supposition", any more than Bohr's model of the atom. It's a valuable and useful platform from which many new discoveries are being made.

Though proponents of "intelligent design" believe they can force us to hold to their stifling religious world view by equating "theory" with "supposition", the fact remains that evolution best explains the contents of the mysterious sealed box. And while the teaching of evolution will lead to even better observations and explanations of our origins, their ideas provide no basis for further exploration or gathering of knowledge.

And that's the bottom line. If the answer to our existence is "God did it," there really is no point in studying anything. If the physicists' complicated formulas on atomic theory are allowed to culminate it "and then a miracle happened", we can kiss our progess goodbye, and settle in for another few centuries of dark ages. I'd rather not pretend that I can see inside the black box through religion. The cost is simply too high.
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:33 PM
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5. Good story
When I was in high school in Tennessee the late 80's they totally deemphasized the scientific method and even mathematics in science class in favor of rote memorization. I wondered why for awhile, until I got into biology class and my teacher skipped the entire first couple of chapters that dealt with evolution, and told us to read them at home on our own time and we wouldn't be tested on them, even though he was required to teach them. It's impossible to understand modern biology without understanding evolution, therefore the only way to learn it after that was by memorization.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 07:27 PM
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4. I visualize the GOP having giggling spasms at the dumbing down of
America. They know no logical thinking person would ever vote for them so they rely on stupidity and ignorance. It is how the Church has maintained it's power as well, so it is only natural they have formed an alliance.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 08:28 PM
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6. KICK
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 08:32 PM
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7. Here is my beef with "creationism"
It doesn't matter that its the Christian view of how life began.

That alone is reason enough to ban it from the classrooms, but there is more:

Aside from the Bible, there is not a shred of evidence stating that creationism is what happened.

Why teach fairy tales along with scientific theory? It doesn't make any sense.

If you are going to teach creationism as "one viewpoint", as these fundies suggest, then why stop there?

Why not teach Native American beliefs as scientific theory?

Hell, why not make up your own story about how the spirits created man, write it in a journal, and teach from that?

Seriously...
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